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My Immigration Advice to the GOP
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | March 30, 2006 | Dick Morris

Posted on 03/29/2006 4:27:02 PM PST by thoughtomator

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To: staytrue
I clicked the link you provided and found zero discussion of illegals or the taxes they pay or the govt. services they use.

"But immigrants also pay taxes. The present value of lifetime earnings for the typical immigrant man is $380,000. With 7.6 million working immigrants (both men and women), total earnings of immigrants are at most $2.9 trillion, of which about 40 percent, or $1.2 trillion, are paid in taxes of all forms. Because 3 percent of total revenues are allocated to cash welfare benefits, immigrants pay about $36 billion ($1.2 trillion times .03) in taxes to fund welfare programs. Comparing the $36 billion that immigrants contribute to welfare to the $56 billion they consume, immigrants consume $20 billion more over their lifetimes than they contribute. Thus, the welfare system causes U.S. natives to lose about $1.1 billion per year (in present value terms). Subtracting this $1.1 billion from the $5 billion annual increase in national income, the United States benefits from immigration, but the economic gains are small. "

I used this as a conservative example, assuming Illegals pay less the legal, and use equivelent services.

141 posted on 03/30/2006 7:43:27 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: staytrue
The point Sowell makes is that the subsidies are controllable, and the freemarket would balance out to a lower price without sub-legal wages. Hence, there does not necessary have to be cost push inflation.
142 posted on 03/30/2006 7:46:08 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: LibertarianInExile

...the sad part is that most of the land the Boers settled was unoccupied...


143 posted on 03/30/2006 5:17:50 PM PST by Reagan 76
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To: staytrue

Hispanic breakdown was 30 for GWB and 70 for Kerry. I remember the GOP strategy need to break 27 percent of Hispanics and exceed 10 percent of Blacks to win. If your numbers (55 vs 45) are correct, why should the GOP and other politicians fear offending Hispanics on immigration issues?


144 posted on 03/31/2006 6:47:04 AM PST by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Fee
If your numbers (55 vs 45) are correct, why should the GOP and other politicians fear offending Hispanics on immigration issues?

Because everyone else is locked into their positions. Blacks, single white women, gays, union people vote dem. Single white men, doctors, small business men vote repub. Hispanics and married people are the swing voters.

FYI, hispanics split 70-30 for GORE, and went 55-45 for Kerry.

145 posted on 03/31/2006 8:48:46 AM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue

It will get worst for the GOP. The new bill will favor the Latino population growth in the US. If they break the vote along 45/55 lines, the Dems will win more elections. In the short run, life is going to change in the US, inner city blacks and blue collar whites will be the first losers in this new demographic change. Our taxes will go up as we must shore up our schools and public hospital, and God knows what new entitlements these Hispanics are going to demand from our government. The only hope left for the GOP is the white Dem blue collar worker and the inner city blacks will be frustrated by the depression of wages in the shrinking service/manufacturing sector as they have to compete against a huge pool of Hispanic laborers, they might cross over and vote for the GOP conservatives.


146 posted on 03/31/2006 9:01:13 AM PST by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Without enforcement (which history shows us is more than likely) illegal and legal wouldnt matter. A fence makes even tepid enforcement effective.
147 posted on 03/31/2006 3:45:09 PM PST by mthom
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To: mthom
Immigration reform has always been the solution, regardless of whose reform wins out. If the US had allowed an adequate number of new citizens, guest workers, or a combination of the two, there would be no illegal problem.

As for the fence, it will be built and it will be a waste of money. But that was the agreement and it is more important to stick with the agreement.

148 posted on 03/31/2006 4:40:44 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Unless those new citizen, guest worker, or combo spots were all reserved for mexicans then they would still be trying to get in. Mexico pushes them out as much as we pull them in.
149 posted on 04/01/2006 4:33:16 AM PST by mthom
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