Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 03/29/2006 1:04:30 PM PST by Crackingham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Crackingham

And the "War on Christians" legal team and main 'perpetraitor' is the ACLU.


2 posted on 03/29/2006 1:08:25 PM PST by BigFinn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham
ABC has been doing stories on this. I don't think the problem is exaggerated.
3 posted on 03/29/2006 1:08:40 PM PST by mlc9852
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham; xzins; P-Marlowe; Buggman; blue-duncan; Revelation 911; jude24; Gamecock; ...
The opening session was devoted to "reports from the frontlines" on "persecution" of Christians in the United States and Canada, including an artist whose paintings were barred from a municipal art show in Deltona, Fla., because they contained religious themes.

I think these people mean well. But as a Christian it's a bit embarrassing to be complaining about censored "Christian" art when a Christian in Afghanistan just barely got out of the country with his life.

4 posted on 03/29/2006 1:08:40 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberalitees - Because they're too fun not to mock!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham

it's not "alleged" it's in plain sight for anyone to see.


5 posted on 03/29/2006 1:12:08 PM PST by camle (Keep your mind open and somebody will fill if full of something for you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham

"...strikes me as a spoiled-brat response by Christians who have always enjoyed the privileges of a majority position," said the Rev. Robert Franklin, a minister in the Church of God in Christ and professor of social ethics at Emory University."

Hmmm.

I'm wondering why the liberal Christians don't perceive the cultural conflict. Maybe because they are on the other side???

When and if it comes down, the liberal "Christians" will side with those that persecute the real Christians.


10 posted on 03/29/2006 1:15:30 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham
Blogs About This washingtonpost.com Article

Some really ridiculous comments.

15 posted on 03/29/2006 1:19:45 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham

the attack on fair treatment of Intelligent Design is clear evidence of this.


18 posted on 03/29/2006 1:21:18 PM PST by balch3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham
To some outsiders, it illuminated the paranoia of the Christian right.

Is illuminating paranoia like following a paranoid person around?

23 posted on 03/29/2006 1:25:08 PM PST by BuglerTex (Conserve gravity - start yesterday!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham

Alleged?? Alleged???? That is like saying "Bill Clinton is alleged to be a horn dog."


39 posted on 03/29/2006 1:39:19 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham

Persecution is too strong a word. It's more like disdain on the part of some people. Here's what persecution would look like:

Churches forced to close by crowds of angry protestors.

The Bible unavailable in your local bookstore.

Cities systematically changing zoning, forcing churhes to leave town.

Gangs of thugs robbing churchgoers on Sundays.

Newspapers no longer running the Church pages every Saturday, and refusing all advertising from churches.


Christians are not being persecuted in this country. Christians are being persecuted in Afghanistan.

Another word would be more appropriate.


40 posted on 03/29/2006 1:40:49 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham

The war against Christians is one of the things that is at the heart of Christianity (and not just Christianity). It must be kept in mind that G-d has an opponent. This opponent has, since the beginning of the human race, worked tirelessly to undermine faith, degrade morals and destroy those who follow G-d's law. The war waged is on all fronts: military, political, economic, social, moral. Propaganda is an essential (indeed it is THE essential) part of this. Convince a person there is no G-d, no Christ, no afterlife, no evil and you have effectively desroyed them - not in the immediate present but for all time.

In a way those facing physical persecution have it easier than those facing softer forms of opposition. Their choice is stark and obvious. The choice of those living in relative physical safety and comfort is much murkier and easily confused and confounded. In both cases it is NOT the death of the body or the loss of physical freedom that is the real menace. It is the destruction of one's true self that is the real threat. The stakes in this conflict are eternal salvation or damnation. These are unpopular words in this time (in just about every time really) but they are true.

If you think there is no war on Christians being waged you are simply being foolish. The war is real and lasting and the peril is just is dire here as it is in Afghanistan or Nigeria or the Sudan or any other hell hole.


44 posted on 03/29/2006 1:43:45 PM PST by scory
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham

"...the Rev. Robert Franklin, a minister in the Church of God in Christ and professor of social ethics at Emory University."

Sounds like the "reverend" Barry Lynn, formerly of the ACLU, who as a "reverend" feels that his job is the far more important work of maintaining the famous, and totally absent from the Constitution, "Separation of Church and State".

These are examples of liberal christians;the church and religion are nothing more than tools for social engineering.


45 posted on 03/29/2006 1:45:57 PM PST by syncked
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham

What really scares me is the complete lack of Christian churches in the U.S. and the fact that any time people try to attend a Christian worship service, they're beaten or thrown in jail. And the other day when my son said a silent prayer before an exam at school they expelled him for the rest of the year. It was awful.


51 posted on 03/29/2006 1:52:45 PM PST by Gone GF
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1605660/posts


54 posted on 03/29/2006 1:57:44 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham
Klingenschmitt said he was punished by a commander for offering sectarian prayers at a memorial service for a fallen sailor, and he compared himself to Abdur Rahman, an Afghan man who until this week faced possible execution for converting from Islam to Christianity.


60 posted on 03/29/2006 2:07:13 PM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; ohioWfan; Tribune7; Tolkien; GrandEagle; Right in Wisconsin; Dataman; ..

ping for interest


88 posted on 03/29/2006 2:47:41 PM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Senator Bedfellow; Ichneumon

Ping.


147 posted on 03/30/2006 4:09:28 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Crackingham
"Certainly religious persecution existed in our history, but to claim that these examples amount to religious persecution disrespects the experiences of people who have been jailed and died because of their faith," said Hollyn Hollman, general counsel of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty.

Using that logic, a black person can't call being fired from his job for being black racism because in history, blacks have been enslaved, lynched, and other terrible things.

No one is claiming that persecution is at its highest level, or that it is everywhere. But it is CLEARLY there, and worse, it is most frequently found in powerful places like liberal judicial opinion and other government institutions such as schools and social services -- places liberals largely control. That's the bottom line. Liberals are the instigators. The worst attacks on Judeo-Christian values and on Christians in particular are by the media, the government schools, liberal interest groups such as the ACLU, and in certain aspects of social services where being a Christian means you need to be re-educated by the gospel of tolerance (tolerate everything but that which is wholesome).

The liberal idea that government can't make moral judgments (which it the "principle" that drives their attack on real faith) is like saying gov't can't distinguish between sense and nonsense because the "sense minorities" might get their feelings hurt or feel oppressed.

153 posted on 03/30/2006 7:04:07 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson