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'War' on Christians Is Alleged. Conference Depicts a Culture Hostile to Evangelical Beliefs.
Washington Post ^ | 3/29/6 | Alan Cooperman

Posted on 03/29/2006 1:04:29 PM PST by Crackingham

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To: PetroniusMaximus
When and if it comes down, the liberal "Christians" will side with those that persecute the real Christians.

"Persecute??" Please. Real Christian martyrs are probably rolling in their graves at their heirs' complete lack of backbone.

21 posted on 03/29/2006 1:23:13 PM PST by Chiapet (I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me)
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To: Chiapet

There is a very real worldwide movement to destroy Christianity in favor of secular humanism. These little things are just part of it.


22 posted on 03/29/2006 1:24:44 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Crackingham
To some outsiders, it illuminated the paranoia of the Christian right.

Is illuminating paranoia like following a paranoid person around?

23 posted on 03/29/2006 1:25:08 PM PST by BuglerTex (Conserve gravity - start yesterday!)
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To: L98Fiero
What about as an American?

Then address it as a freedom of speech issue, not a "don't hurt me because I'm Christian" issue.

24 posted on 03/29/2006 1:25:22 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberalitees - Because they're too fun not to mock!)
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To: conserv13

"Oh Please. There is no 'War on Christians'."

There is indeed a war of traditional Judeo-Christian values, an attempt to erase all traces of Christian tradition and heritage in America, and a concerted effort to supress traditional religious liberties.


25 posted on 03/29/2006 1:25:54 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: jude24
We trivialize the word "persection" when we make it refer to trivial matters like Christmas displays.

Exactly.

26 posted on 03/29/2006 1:26:37 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberalitees - Because they're too fun not to mock!)
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To: BuglerTex

Chuckling...does that make both paranoid?


27 posted on 03/29/2006 1:27:55 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
If we don't then I can only conclude that it must be God's will for the Church in America to undergo a great persecution.

Matthew 5:11
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Maybe it would make us a little more serious about our faith.

28 posted on 03/29/2006 1:28:44 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberalitees - Because they're too fun not to mock!)
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To: sageb1
Some really ridiculous comments.

Choke, gasp. I checked out your link. A self-fulfilling phenomenon is in there.

29 posted on 03/29/2006 1:28:55 PM PST by BuglerTex (Conserve gravity - start yesterday!)
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To: Chiapet

""Persecute??" Please. Real Christian martyrs are probably rolling in their graves at their heirs' complete lack of backbone."


We are not there yet. But there are unmistakable signs that it may be coming.

Our generation may be weak and flacid, but may God strength our children to withstand the fury they will face for not kneeling at the alter of Homo/Diversity.


30 posted on 03/29/2006 1:29:36 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
There is indeed a war of traditional Judeo-Christian values, an attempt to erase all traces of Christian tradition and heritage in America, and a concerted effort to supress traditional religious liberties.

You say that but I don't see any evidence.

I don't think homos wanting to get married or Wal Mart workers not saying 'Merry Christmas' is religious persecution.

31 posted on 03/29/2006 1:31:17 PM PST by conserv13
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To: Corin Stormhands

"Maybe it would make us a little more serious about our faith."

I hate to think about it, but historically speaking it's usually one of the best things that can happen to the Church.

It's turned the Chinese Church into a powerhouse.


32 posted on 03/29/2006 1:31:35 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: sageb1
...does that make both paranoid?

I had not thought of that, I guess it would. Or there's the phrase: the closer one gets to the light the more dirt one sees.

33 posted on 03/29/2006 1:33:10 PM PST by BuglerTex (Conserve gravity - start yesterday!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Agreed. I think my point is that American Christians have become too soft and are too easily offended.


34 posted on 03/29/2006 1:33:14 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberalitees - Because they're too fun not to mock!)
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To: conserv13

"You say that but I don't see any evidence."

There's no shortage of evidence.
Here's a good starting point for you:

Persecution: How Liberals Are Waging War Against Christianity
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007ZNV04/sr=8-1/qid=1143667998/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-1328089-0523930?%5Fencoding=UTF8


35 posted on 03/29/2006 1:34:02 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: conserv13
Nonsense. It was on TV last night.

The bias was evident to Millions of Americans when Mandissa sang a openly Christian Praise Song (a bona-fide song selection) on American Idol.

The judges responded to her EXCELLENT performance with confounded/confused and EXTREMELY PREJUDICED and UNBALANCED responses compared to what they were handing out.

36 posted on 03/29/2006 1:35:56 PM PST by foldspace (Tom Delay is NOT a criminal)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
We are not there yet. But there are unmistakable signs that it may be coming.

Not occupying the place of privilege does not equal persecution. Oh darn, science won't conform to religious dogma, and shucks, the 10 Commandments aren't getting posted in schools or courthouses. Wahh, wahh, wahh, cry me a river. What a bunch of wimps.

37 posted on 03/29/2006 1:36:17 PM PST by Chiapet (I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me)
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"I think my point is that American Christians have become too soft and are too easily offended."

I think American Christians became too soft and were not offended easily enough. That is changing. We are beginning to stand up for what we believe.

38 posted on 03/29/2006 1:36:59 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Crackingham

Alleged?? Alleged???? That is like saying "Bill Clinton is alleged to be a horn dog."


39 posted on 03/29/2006 1:39:19 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: Crackingham

Persecution is too strong a word. It's more like disdain on the part of some people. Here's what persecution would look like:

Churches forced to close by crowds of angry protestors.

The Bible unavailable in your local bookstore.

Cities systematically changing zoning, forcing churhes to leave town.

Gangs of thugs robbing churchgoers on Sundays.

Newspapers no longer running the Church pages every Saturday, and refusing all advertising from churches.


Christians are not being persecuted in this country. Christians are being persecuted in Afghanistan.

Another word would be more appropriate.


40 posted on 03/29/2006 1:40:49 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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