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(Catholic Office) Calls for Merchants to Offer Modest Fashions so Women Can “Dress with Dignity”
LifeSite ^ | March 29, 2006 | Hilary White

Posted on 03/29/2006 12:39:50 PM PST by NYer

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To: gidget7

OK, then. I tried. I confess to not understanding women's clothing very well at all. Too many sizes. Too many other things. My wife knows that I will never buy clothes for her. Her size list is so complicated, I'd have to get another college degree just to comprehend it.

Good luck to ya, short stuff! [grin]


61 posted on 03/29/2006 1:29:04 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: gidget7

I don't like lookin' like to hogs fightin' in a croaker sack. Don't think the clothes will fix that though ;)


62 posted on 03/29/2006 1:29:45 PM PST by najida (A day we haven't danced is wasted.)
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To: najida

"I don't like lookin' like to hogs fightin' in a croaker sack. Don't think the clothes will fix that though ;)"

Oh, my! I'm not touching that. No way.....


63 posted on 03/29/2006 1:33:20 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

Some croaker sacks are meant to be left alone.


64 posted on 03/29/2006 1:35:13 PM PST by najida (A day we haven't danced is wasted.)
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To: MineralMan

>>Save your nonsense for threads that actually involve the subject of sexual abuse by clergy, OK?<<
Thank you for that post! Funny how Catholics receive so much hatred from our fellow "Christians," huh?


65 posted on 03/29/2006 1:38:59 PM PST by travlnmn41
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To: ansel12

Oh okay. Brazilian I do know about (think it's weird & doubtless excruciating) - I thought you meant braids or extensions!


66 posted on 03/29/2006 1:51:09 PM PST by nina0113
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To: gidget7

Pick anything you like that fits the way you want and search for another just like it on ebay. Email the seller with the tag codes inside what you have & ask if they're the same. Styles from the same company will probably fit the same, i.e., a Land's End size 6 will fit differently than a Maggie London size 6. If Maggie London size 6 is what fits you, search on that specific designer.


67 posted on 03/29/2006 1:56:19 PM PST by nina0113
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To: NYer
Be careful here. Colleen Hammond is a bit of a kook.

I am ALL for more modest dresses. But, Hammond doesn't want women wearing pants AT ALL.
She says crazy things like pant are designed by men to bring men's eyes down to the women's crotch. Check this out and read the comments.

She may do a greater diservice to the "modest dress movement".

68 posted on 03/29/2006 2:01:16 PM PST by It's me
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To: MineralMan
You're not going to find it at The Gap or Wet Seal or any of those stores, I guarantee.

The Gap?

I don't think many of the Gap's clothing as being particularly immodest.

69 posted on 03/29/2006 2:11:09 PM PST by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: JenB
I've never had trouble finding what I consider modest dress -

Nor I. My favorite stores include: Chico's, Petite Sophisticate, Kohls, Geoffrey Beene, Van Heusen, Coldwater Creek, etc...

One key to modesty is understanding how clothes fit on your body. A flattering, modest sillhouette on one person would be inappropriate on another woman with different proportions.

The article seems to be critical of immodest fads because there truly is no shortage of modest clothes (even for youts). Chasing fads is rarely worthwhile but they can be fun to work into a basic wardobe of well-fitting, modest pieces. For example, just yesterday I saw a pretty, lacy tank top in a store. The mannequin was shown wearing it with a skirt. Yuck. I would wear it under a blouse with a nice blazer.

As you say, it's not hard - it just takes some thought.

70 posted on 03/29/2006 3:43:56 PM PST by Lil'freeper ("Vote for Pedro and all your wildest dreams will come true.")
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To: nina0113

I googled " pubic hair styles" and got quite a list.


71 posted on 03/29/2006 3:56:03 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ArrogantBustard
Thank you for once again demonstrating the Taliban Corrolary to Godwin's Law.

AB, please remind me again of the specifics of Godwin's Law. I keep mixing it up with Protoplasmic Dynamism's Fourth Lemma. Many thanks! I know it is a "goodun" as they say in PA.

Francis Seamus

72 posted on 03/29/2006 4:01:38 PM PST by Frank Sheed ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." ~GK Chesterton.)
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To: MineralMan; NYer

My wife has no problem finding modest clothing at ordinary retailers like J. Jill, Coldwater Creek, Ann Taylor, Talbot's, and Macy's. You just have to look for it.

If many women really wanted modest clothing, the stores would sell it only. They are there to make money, and if they weren't making money from immodesty, they wouldn't carry the clothes, because they would go bankrupt. Unfortunately, far too many women are all too eager for tight pants, two-piece bathing suits, low cut one-piece bathing suits, shirts exposing cleavage and bellies, low rider pants, and mini-skirts. Just like the trend of some women using "Victoria's Secret" shopping bags as handbags to take things to work.

40 years ago, the vast majority of people would have treated women such as this as the trollops, sluts, and wannabe street-walkers they clearly yearn to be recognized as, and the shame would have forced a change. People are far to accepting of immodesty in others, just like they are far too accepting of divorce and remarriage, shacking up, adultery, etc.

Does anyone remember the social principals of old where decent people refused to socialize with the immodest and immoral? Where remarriage meant and end to all prior social contacts in the neighborhood? You only lower yourself to their level by admitting they are presenting themselves as someone worthy of your company. If a store only sells immodest clothing, by all means, register a complaint with management, and inform them of where you will be shopping instead, and how much you will spend, and who else you will tell to avoid it. Then shake the dust from your feet and move on.


73 posted on 03/29/2006 8:20:25 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: MineralMan
For teens, though, it's a tougher deal. They're dealing with peer pressure and want to shop in the stylish stores frequented by their friends. That makes it a little more difficult.

What I could never figure out is what the heck happened between 1992 and 1995 to teenage fashion and parental common sense. In High School, I don't recall there being low cut shirts, mid-rif exposure, etc. There was no pressure to be a slut. Then one day in 1995, I went out to get Pizza with a buddy, and went to the first teenage hangout I'd been in about 3-4 years. What a shock! Every girl in there looked like a little hooker! I turned to my friend and asked him WTF happened that girls are suddenly dressing like that?

74 posted on 03/29/2006 8:28:18 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: It's me; NYer

Most styles of women's pants are too tight and thus immodest.

In general, women shouldn't wear pants apart from exercising, manual labor, etc. The regular wearing of pants by women is defeminizing.


75 posted on 03/29/2006 8:35:24 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: NYer
Sort of like a call for burkas.

When will you start sending out patrols to enforce proper dress codes and behavior?

Will they carry canes to switch the offenders?

76 posted on 03/29/2006 8:41:35 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: Frank Sheed
From Wikipedia:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

The Taliban Corrolary states that if the discussion involves sexual morality or modesty, the Taliban replaces the Nazis.

77 posted on 03/29/2006 9:21:24 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MineralMan
For teens, though, it's a tougher deal. They're dealing with peer pressure and want to shop in the stylish stores frequented by their friends. That makes it a little more difficult.

But as a parent, why would you let your child give in to peer pressure? Today it's clothing, tomorrow it's experimenting with sex and/or drugs. But, Dad, Mom, all the kids are doing it! I don't want to be different!

78 posted on 03/29/2006 9:30:22 PM PST by Elyse
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To: NYer

Count me in on her crusade.

The big thing is getting women to dress more femininely. It's not going to be easy.


79 posted on 03/30/2006 4:08:37 AM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: gidget7
I have long held the view that fashion, even blue jeans, is not flattering to women now. The jeans are cut for men and boys, do not flatter a woman or girl.

True. This is what happens when clothing designers are gay men. They design clothing for what appeals to them.

It's easier to find clothes than people might think. It just takes a little effort.

80 posted on 03/30/2006 4:11:05 AM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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