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Is America ready for another George? (George Allen)
Town Hall ^ | Mar 28, 2006 | Eliot Peace

Posted on 03/29/2006 11:02:37 AM PST by Sonny M

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I like his comments on immigration, but I'll wait to see how he votes.

FWIW, regardless of who runs in 2008, I will not vote for anyone who is NOT pro-life (no Romney, no Rudy) and not pro 2nd amendment (no McCain).

And since Mike Pence isn't running that may make Allen the most conservative one running.

1 posted on 03/29/2006 11:02:39 AM PST by Sonny M
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I like his comments on immigration, but I'll wait to see how he votes.

Good idea! In the past he has supported shamnesty. He is singing a new tune in this speech and I don't think we have much reason to trust him.

2 posted on 03/29/2006 11:06:39 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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For me Allen is out. I don't think he has any deep convictions on the immigration issue, he is just testing the waters. But I am watching Tancredo closely. He may not have any real chances but I like what he is saying.


3 posted on 03/29/2006 11:09:12 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

With a field of McPain and Ruddy, George Allen is our best bet. He is the real McCOy.


4 posted on 03/29/2006 11:10:15 AM PST by tigtog
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To: defconw; tiredoflaundry

George Allen ping!


5 posted on 03/29/2006 11:13:15 AM PST by Fudd Fan (Truth will set us all free. Libs will get us all killed.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
I think Tancredo is going to help push immigration and the primary to the right.

He won't win, and isn't trying to win, he just wants to steer the primary, which is a good thing.

Any other candidate that wants to win, will have to try and pick up Tancredos supporters, which means closing in on his position, out of the candidates, I think Allen is the most likely, followed by Rudy ( who I can not vote for).

6 posted on 03/29/2006 11:13:44 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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I like the guys comments too. However, I believe it has been proven, time and time again, that it is hard to trust any of them anymore. As a previous poster stated, let's wait to see how he votes.
Also, Pence would be a great candidate, with the exception of two things:
1 - He is not known nationally.
2 - When he got spanked by the leaders for his 500 million dollar budget cutting ideas, he folded like a cheap lawn chair.


7 posted on 03/29/2006 11:13:59 AM PST by mark3681
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball; Gipper08

America is ready for a "Mike".....


Mike Pence!!


8 posted on 03/29/2006 11:14:04 AM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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Allen is looking like the best of the bunch for '08.

The last George we had from Virginia didn't do such a bad job as president.
9 posted on 03/29/2006 11:15:08 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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I realize not everyone here on FR is an Allen-bot, but he did a great job in Virginia as governor. I'm more inclined to support him on his guv experience than as senator, however I still like him over the other choices.


10 posted on 03/29/2006 11:15:22 AM PST by Fudd Fan (Truth will set us all free. Libs will get us all killed.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Yes, Tancredo is a renegade of sorts. I like his positions on many issues. And, he backs up his positions with his vote.


11 posted on 03/29/2006 11:15:37 AM PST by mark3681
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As a previous poster stated, let's wait to see how he votes.

That was me that said that.

12 posted on 03/29/2006 11:15:43 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Antoninus

We haven't had any bad president from Virginia!


13 posted on 03/29/2006 11:16:23 AM PST by Fudd Fan (Truth will set us all free. Libs will get us all killed.)
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To: Sonny M

OH. So sorry.


14 posted on 03/29/2006 11:17:34 AM PST by mark3681
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Is America ready for another George wearing cowboy boots?

At least this George sounds like he would know how to cut spending.

15 posted on 03/29/2006 11:20:20 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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I have real worries about George Allen not being ready for prime time. I watched him on CNN's Late Edition back in September get absolutely creamed by Barbara Boxer. Boxer is a total dimbulb who just spouted one lie after another. I was literally shouting at the TV about what he should be saying to refute her, but he just sat there looking like a deer in the headlights. He never once deviated from his pre-fab script and just let Boxer's lies and distortions go unanswered. I was flabbergasted.

So I thought, maybe he just had a bad day. Then I saw him do the exact same thing when paired up against Chuckles Schumer, Dem. Rep. Jane Harman and R.I. Senator Jack Reed on various other political chat shows. The guy just froze up and didn't know how to knock their no-brainer lies right out of the park! I mean, if this guy can't refute the basic uninspired talking points of Democratic partisans, then the likely Dem. nominee Hillary Clinton will eat this guy alive in the presidential race.

Nope, the GOP cannot afford to run a dimbulb against a superstar. We need to find someone more capable than Allen. I mean, this might sound superficial but he doesn't even look or sound presidential. I'm telling you, if we nominate this empty suit, he will become the GOP's John Kerry in '08. We better look elsewhere for a candidate.
16 posted on 03/29/2006 11:20:58 AM PST by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Democratic Congressional control)
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I will wait to see how he does on the national platform; he is just beginning to get some coverage.

He has been a little uneven on his responses to questions, and I am concerned that he either has a staff which isn't first-rate or that he is not a quick thinker.

However, those are only initial impressions and I am waiting until I can see him on Road to the White House and in extended interviews on television. I don't have anyone to support yet and am watching all of the potential candidates.

17 posted on 03/29/2006 11:22:51 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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"At least this George sounds like he would know how to cut spending."


What spending cuts has he proposed in the Senate? I'm sure not aware that he's presented any or fought to reduce spending and pork in any way. Governance is more than just saying all the right soundbites. It means actually showing you're a leader ready to take on real problems, not just declare yourself a "Reagan conservative" then vote for every big fat spending bill that makes it to the Senate floor. Allen has shown no predisposition to being a leader in the Senate or anything other than an incompetent and over-exposed spokeshole for the GOP on every political show out there. Allen is just part of the wallpaper in D.C., nothing special.


18 posted on 03/29/2006 11:23:52 AM PST by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Democratic Congressional control)
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To: Miss Marple

Read my post #16. You'll see that saying Allen has been "uneven on his responses" is the understatement of the century.


19 posted on 03/29/2006 11:25:00 AM PST by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Democratic Congressional control)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

George Bush never even sounded like Ronald Reagan, so we cannot blame him for not acting like a fiscal conservative (his dad never did either). Sounding like a Ronald Reagan is a huge improvement over George W. Bush. Acting like Ronald Reagan is the next big test. However, just speaking like one at least commits Allen to be measured by those words, something we could never do with George Bush. I'm voting for Allen.


20 posted on 03/29/2006 11:26:11 AM PST by winner3000
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