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To: Dane

I live in what used to be a very upper class to rich resort town 140 miles away from the Mexico border.

Our population has tripled in the last five years, 80% due to hispanic immigrants...(I won't pretend to know the percentage of illegals) and most of the remaining 20% 'non-brown' California refugees.

Of the 10 or so restraunts and fast food joints here that I regularly visit; in all but the two Mexican food places owned by green-carded aliens, NONE of the waitstaff, bus people etc. are hispanic. Even in Taco Bell, I have never seen a 'hispanic' worker. One of the hosts and two of the hostesses at the fanciest place are hispanic, but probably legal as they are extremely fluent in english.

Only three of the employees that I have SEEN at the local Wal-Mart superstore are hispanic. The rest are 'white' or 'native american'; about half of each 'race'. (The Mescalero Apache Reservation is right next to us).

Only one 'hispanic' seen working at either of the other two local grocery stores, and none at the four 'convenience' stores.

Of the other retail, low paying places that I frequent, only the three 'hispanic owned' dollar stores have hispanic employees 'doing jobs that Americans wont'; The rest have mostly white and a significant number of Apache employees in their minimum wage jobs.

All the people that do lawncare that I know or see are 'white'.

Have never seen a hispanic groundskeeper, greenskeeper at any of our several local golf courses.

About half the maids at the motels are white, and about half are hispanic and a few 'others'.

The only places around here that I see large numbers of 'immigrants doing jobs Americans won't do' are the construction industry.

That USED to be the only way that local people without a college degree and/or a real estate Brokers License or enough smarts to run their own business could make a decent wage in this area.

But now, those American Citizens have to take minimum wage 'jobs that illegal aliens won't take' or leave the area to find a better job, because the non-english speaking hispanics fill the good paying construction jobs that used to keep local families together and living comfortably.

I have to admit that I must be missing something: The jobs that I do see 'immigrants' doing around here certainly don't support the hordes of 'immigrants' now populating this place.

The main activity I see them in is shopping and eating; At any given time, day and night, 80% of the customers in any retail store or restraunt are jabbering in spanish. The kids running wild and the adults blocking the aisles with carts and people side by side, many rudely or even aggressively refusing to let people through or access to the shelves they are perusing.

SO, I can see why the retailers here are for open borders even though they don't often hire them: They love them because they are in a continuous shopping frenzy. How they pay for it, I don't even pretend to know. The ones I do see working sure can't support all those shoppers.

Even though the crime rate has tripled every year for the last few years, that, combined with the construction workers income can't account for all the shoppers.

Oh, and one other place that I see predominately hispanic people: the Hospital Emergency room (I have an invalid, hypochondriac mother, and visit there often, unfortunately).

Even though it is a 'church run, charitable hospital'; twenty - ten, - even five years ago, every year they had excess money in their accounts, and a great reputation for high quality care. The last three years, they have been in huge financial trouble, and now have a horrible reputation for care.

It has only been about four years since we have had a lot of 'immigrants' moving in here, despite our proximity to the border. Hmmm... I wonder if there is any correlation between that and the hospital situation.

Anyway, the purpose of this whole long screed is merely this:

I don't really believe that canard about 'doing jobs that Americans won't do': Nearly all the crappy, low paying jobs around here are filled by " 'White' and 'Apache' Americans".

The 'immigrants' have taken over most of the GOOD jobs around here that historically employed our local high school graduates and dropouts and gave them decent incomes.


1,151 posted on 03/29/2006 3:47:03 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt
The 'immigrants' have taken over most of the GOOD jobs around here that historically employed our local high school graduates and dropouts and gave them decent incomes

Really? I don't believe you, sounds like anyone who wants a construction job or other good paying job and shows up to work can have one.

But nice try at frenzied hyperbole.

1,161 posted on 03/29/2006 3:56:14 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: LegendHasIt
The 'immigrants' have taken over most of the GOOD jobs around here that historically employed our local high school graduates and dropouts and gave them decent incomes.

Excuse me if I refuse to shed croc tears over "high school dropouts" who can't get "decent incomes."

There are rules of life. One is, you eat, or you die.

Another is, you drop out of high school, you sweep floors the rest of your life.

1,180 posted on 03/29/2006 4:03:20 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: LegendHasIt

Another noob chimes in.


1,241 posted on 03/29/2006 4:23:11 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: LegendHasIt
The 'immigrants' have taken over most of the GOOD jobs around here that historically employed our local high school graduates and dropouts and gave them decent incomes.

What "good jobs"? First of all, a high school graduate isn't going to get what one would consider a "good job" without a good college education.

Secondly, I have no sympathy for dropouts, and neither do employers of good paying jobs. Anyone who does, is a damned liberal, who thinks everything should be fair in life.

1,610 posted on 03/29/2006 7:07:02 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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