Can't be done unless we let 'em. But unfortunately too many have either remained silent or gone elsewhere. So kudos to 'em. They can't win with ideas, but they can win with subterfuge.
Yep, and the newbies keep coming. I don't mind thoughtful newbs, it's the over the top zealots who post on their kook message boards, and come here trolling. What's happened to the oldtimers? Not to many posting lately, FR has been taken over by kooks.