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To: McGavin999
"Does the POTUS make the laws?"

No, but he's supposed to enforce them. Hence the whole, 'Executive' thing. The laws on the books say illegals are supposed to be stopped at the border and deported when they're found to have gotten past the border. That isn't being done with any significant effort.

"Has he initiated amnisty?"

He's using his influence in Congress (what little is left) to push for amnesty.

"I thought that was Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton."

Actually, President Clinton did a lot more for border security than President Bush has done (see: Operation Gatekeeper, Operation Hold the Line, et al). President Reagan, frankly, had bigger fish to fry. He was sold on the amnesty once and be done with it plan which ended up failing miserably. President Bush is trying to sell us on the same plan we've already seen fail. How dumb is that?

As it stands, I don't think we're at the point where the President should be impeached. However, if a House-like version of the immigration reform bill goes to his desk and he refuses to sign it, I will drive down to Washington myself and start screaming through a bullhorn for Congress to draft articles of impeachment for the Executive failing to secure the United States of America, and I won't stop shouting until he's removed from office. I sincerely hope that the President's first veto is not used on this very worthwhile legislation.
45 posted on 03/29/2006 12:12:37 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: NJ_gent
Ah yes, so all those brand new citizens who were sworn in right before Clinton's second election were the product of "Project Gatekeeper".

Don't try to snow me about what a great job Clinton did, I live in Arizona and I know full well how many illegals were coming in here during his term. The safehouses were full to overflowing. If anything, things have been getting better because these safehouses have been getting raided on a pretty regular basis in the past few years. The problem the administration has is there are so many santuary cities. You tell me how you "enforce the law" when cities won't cooperate, when schools refuse to report illegals, when the INS is full of Clintonites who are fully protected by the unions?

46 posted on 03/29/2006 12:39:45 PM PST by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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To: NJ_gent

"Has he initiated amnisty?"

He's using his influence in Congress (what little is left) to push for amnesty.



Amnesty means to grant a pardon, and a pardon is defined as the excusing of an offense without exacting a penalty. Under this reasoning, the refusal of the President to enforce the laws effectively excuses any criminal from receiving any punishment for the committed crime and can thus be construed as granting a de facto amnesty.


55 posted on 03/29/2006 6:01:20 PM PST by old republic
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