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Suffice to say I completely disagree with your view of national security. We will have a long time presence in the ME becasue the ME needed to be changed. And your right about NoKo. It has Nukes. And therefore sacrificing Seoul to invade them was not a viable option.

And waiting for Saddam and Iran to get Nukes is crazy. Best to fight this battle now. And Iraq WILL be a long term ally. Unless you believe the NY times version of things.

Afghanistan has been going better than anyone expected in such a short period of time. Had we just crushed the taliban and left, the Iranians or some other pestilence would have filled the void. Are there parts of the country that are not fully up to speed...sure. But the Afghan army is being trained and they are wiping the remnants of taliban up very well, with our help.

An Iran is next.

"therefore sacrificing Seoul to invade them was not a viable option."

As much as I hate to say it, Seoul isn't an American city; Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicaco, Washingon DC, Miami, Dallas, Baltimore, and other such potential targets of North Korea's nuclear arsenal are. North Korea is headed by a group of nutjobs, the leader of which is especially insane. Leaving them in possession of nuclear weapons and allowing them to continue work on developing the means to deliver them to US cities is what's truly not a viable option. We tried negotiation in 1994 and that produced nothing but empty and broken promises. We've tried it again since 2002 to no avail. Nuclear weapons production continues in North Korea, and work on the Tae-po Dong III (ICBM) continues. In a few years, attacking North Korea will result in the loss of several US cities and tens of millions of US citizens. The sooner we deal with North Korea in the only effective way possible, the sooner we head off an imminent threat that's orders of magnitude greater than Saddam could have hoped to be within his lifetime.

"And waiting for Saddam and Iran to get Nukes is crazy."

They're/were several years away from having them. They're/were at least a decade or more away from having the means to deliver them to US cities (unless they purchase said means from a black market dealer like North Korea). North Korea has them now. Better to deal with North Korea before they can deliver them to US cities than to hit the little guys first.

"And Iraq WILL be a long term ally."

Yeah, just like Saudi Arabia...

"Had we just crushed the taliban and left, the Iranians or some other pestilence would have filled the void. Are there parts of the country that are not fully up to speed...sure. But the Afghan army is being trained and they are wiping the remnants of taliban up very well, with our help."

It wasn't lawless elements of Afghanistan that were about to hang a Christian convert; it was the government of Afghanistan, put together with the help of the US, acting within its written and adopted constitution. They'd be no worse off with Iran at the helm.

Suffice to say I completely disagree with your view of national security. We will have a long time presence in the ME becasue the ME needed to be changed.

How stupid you bushbots are ! Has it ever entered your brain that they do not have the least wish to be changed ? Has it entered your brain that now that the Shiites have the organization and firepower to ethnic cleanse the Sunnis they no longer need us and want us out ? Do you count on gratitude ?