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RNC Memo Warns GOPers Not To Distance Themselves From Bush
The Hotline (National Journal) ^ | March 28, 2006

Posted on 03/28/2006 7:52:53 PM PST by Karl Rand

Republican pollster Jan van Lohuizen, in a memo written for RNC chairman Ken Mehlman, warns that if members of Congress try to drive a wedge between themselves and Pres. Bush, it'd be akin to adding weight to an anchor. GOpers are "W Brand Republicans" whether they like it or not. And van Louhizen, who has polled (often secretly) for the Bush White House under the RNC aegis for years, is worried about low turnout.

Time Magazine first reported on the memo this weekend, but the full text is below.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; albatross; branded; bush; bushrobusteza; congressbots; howlinandherbushbots; lockstep; partysuicide; rnc; wbrand; wbrandmadeinmexico
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To: zook
...assuming it's combined with a literal tightening of the borders

I needed a good laugh. What's the weather like on your planet?

242 posted on 03/28/2006 9:22:46 PM PST by thoughtomator (Pacifism is objectively pro-terrorist; Amnesty for illegals is objectively anti-American)
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To: RHINO369

If it were only a matter of 10 cents I might be persuaded. It's more than 10 cents and it's even more, very much more, expensive to devote the resources needed not just to remove illegals from this country, but also to marshal the political will of Americans to want to do this.


243 posted on 03/28/2006 9:23:02 PM PST by zook
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To: Killborn
And many of you want to throw it all away right now because America did not return to the way the Foundng Fathers wanted in less than two decades.

I understand and sympathize with your argument from 'we can't let the dems take power.' I agree. But your argument quoted above is a little hollow as it completely mischaracterizes the point conservatives are making. You argue that conservatives are whining because we are not getting more conservative fast enough--if they just wait a little longer, we will be closer to a consitutional republic than we are today. Conservatives are not complaining over the slow pace of improvement. Conservatives are complaining that W has taken us the wrong direction altogether on key issues--federal spending, campaign finance reform, guest worker programs, affirmative action etc.

And there is some truth to their argument. Even his two court appointments, which have been W's finest domestic moments are tainted--the conservatives had to go nuts to get him to back-off on what would have been huge blunders--first, Alberto Gonzales and then Harriet Miers. So he doesn't even get full credit for his twofer on this issue. So about all that's left is tax cuts (which I value) and they are all going away in a few years.

I'm a party official and deeply involved in GOTV. So don't go all high and mighty on me that I am abandoning ship. I'm not.

The reality today is, the BEST platform we have left to energize the base is: "Vote for us, we don't suck as much as the dems." (Basically, your argument.) And I can tell you from the trenches, it isn't selling very well this year. IMHO, we are headed to another 1982 election (the one after W's dad pulled off the 'read my lips' fiasco).

You can do all the happy-time cheerleading you want; but the party has to face that W has alienated a substantial portion of its base with insane spending and is working to really piss them off with a Guest Worker program. He has taken an issue (immigration) that we could have crammed sideways down the dems throats and turned it from a huge positive to a net-negative.

I see no effort going on at the national party level to deal with this. It's like it or lump it and a lot of my constituents are mulling over the 'lump' option.

244 posted on 03/28/2006 9:23:30 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: zook
Problem is, once employers get a taste of H1-B visas and/or illegal labor, they just can't get enough.

I work in tech and instead of employing more H1-B labor, we just move everything to China.

245 posted on 03/28/2006 9:23:37 PM PST by dc27
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To: zook

assuming it's combined with a literal tightening of the borders.
Keep dreaming.It's about $$$$$ not about the future of this country , which is my priority.


246 posted on 03/28/2006 9:23:42 PM PST by aureliusk
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To: fallujah-nuker
The amnesty that Bush is pushing will make it 50 million or more. The RNC is dooming itself by importing future Democrats.

I heard Tancredo say tonight that it will be 70 million more (those who will be allowed in as family) besides the 30 million that will be given amnesty.

100 million -- what will become of this country if we have to try to assimilate that large a group, most of whom don't want to assimilate at all?

247 posted on 03/28/2006 9:24:06 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: pissant; zook
GOpers are "W Brand Republicans" whether they like it or not.

We surely have a thread here filled with people trying to tell the GOP what to do in 2006 and 2008, don't we?

Let's see if we can figure out who they are:

Although President Bush’s approval ratings continue to slide in national polls, his support among Republican voters remains strong, with 80% of Republican voters approving of his job performance, and 84% expressing a strongly or somewhat favorable opinion of him. Evangelicals report an 85% approval rating of Bush, and 89% have a favorable opinion of the president.

Any questions?

Punch here for more

248 posted on 03/28/2006 9:24:53 PM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: TheForceOfOne
Deport them all

I want the all deported, and it isn't going to happen until Bush gets "deported".

249 posted on 03/28/2006 9:26:04 PM PST by Mini-14
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To: RHINO369

It sounds like you're arguing in favor of economic protectionism. In the long run, I think that's completely futile. We're going to have to live with the fact that people around the world are willing to work for less money than we are. As the world develops, economically, socially, and politically, things will tend to balance out. But I've told my kids that they are going to have to get all the education and skills they can to compete in the economy that's coming down the road.


251 posted on 03/28/2006 9:26:46 PM PST by zook
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To: thoughtomator

I believe the voters are so entranched in their respective parties that candidates could come out for a debate and tap dance on kittens and it wouldn't change voting patterns.


252 posted on 03/28/2006 9:26:49 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Karl Rand

It isn't Congress driving a wedge between themselves and the President. It is the lame duck President driving a wedge between himself and every other thinking Republican. He's not running again and he's not doing Republican in Congress any favors with his recent shenanigans


253 posted on 03/28/2006 9:26:58 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Bushman2

If WE WANT TO WIN "BACK THE PRESIDENT, OR SHUT UP"




I refuse to shut up. When the leadership of this country is wrong, I will call them on it and I don't give a damn which party it is!


254 posted on 03/28/2006 9:27:34 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Fences don't work? Better take down the one around the White house.)
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To: zook

So if it's too expensive to remove them we just let them and anyone else who wanders into the US stay ? You go after the people who employ illegals and have sever concequences for them . No jobs, they will leave on their own. refuse illegals free schools and free $$$ and they will leave. They scam and milk the system by the billions and form almost 1/3 of the prison population (%80 in southern CA ) I want my country back .


255 posted on 03/28/2006 9:27:59 PM PST by aureliusk
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To: thoughtomator

In central Pennsylvania spring weather is nearly here.


256 posted on 03/28/2006 9:28:05 PM PST by zook
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To: zook
Back when I was a grocery store cashier about 2 years ago Lettuce was only 50cents a head. If your paying these illegals 6 dollars an hour but now have to hire regular citizens 12, how much is the price going to go up. 500% when labor costs only went up 100%? If farming labor costs are 20% of the total cost (which is probably high) thats only a 10 cent increase in price.

In the 60s after California got rid of illegals picking tomatoes, the tomato growers found a way to grow them so they could be picked by machine, and costs went down.
257 posted on 03/28/2006 9:28:11 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: texasbluebell
what will become of this country

The USA already "became". It is now just a matter of survival and winning the office pool to see what date we officially become 3rd world status.

Many are to blame, including Bush, of course, but also these so-called "conservatives" who defended leftist move after lefist move after leftist move by the Republican'ts.

258 posted on 03/28/2006 9:28:18 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The purpose of this forum is to fight socialism (see FR homepage), not to defend Republicans.)
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To: trubluolyguy
Vote for us, we suck less! Yeah, that's a winner!

Yes, some of them suck .. but not all of them

Besides .. you got a better idea to keep the Dems out of control

Because once they get back in .. you can kiss your freedoms and your principals good bye

259 posted on 03/28/2006 9:28:34 PM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: NJ_gent
However, NRC spokesman David McIntyre defended his body and disputed that there was enough material to make two bombs.

"It was basically the radioactive equivalent of what's in a smoke detector," he told the Associated Press news agency.

Sorry, this is one of the "gotcha games" different sources like to play -

The reality is these were not ME men/women (or profiled individuals), nor did they have enough material to create even one dirty bomb. Additionally there is more to this story (that you'll see reported about in the coming weeks).

260 posted on 03/28/2006 9:28:47 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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