Yet ANOTHER lie.
Here is the initial statment that got the debate going:
"Ah, well. It hardly matters. While the IDers and the Geocentrists mioght well triumph, and the meek may well inheirit the Earth... thos who abandon such childish belief systems will conquer the universe soon enough."
While there are doubtless uninformed adherents on both sides of the issue, an informed geocentrist understands much more about the issues and why the concepts are unprovable.
"Maybe we'll leave the Earth and its culture of whack-jobism as sort of a zoo. It'll be entertaining to watch y'all try to build surface-to-space interceptors when y'all have to reject the rotation of the Earth."
Statements like this show just how uninformed most heliocentrists really are and support my point above.
'Surface-to-space' intercepts *are* calculated assuming a stationary earth.
Note that you originally used the term "space". You then had to backtrack to "orbit".
I was being more definitive that 'space' by using 'orbit' because I finally figured out that orion was doing the old 'bait 'n switch'.
If you claim that a 'surface-to-space' intercept uses heliocentric calculations, then those calculations should be used for your interceptor to reach 'space', which is well within the bounds of orbits that would be calculated using only the center of the earth. No solar orbital measurements are required or used for this calculation.
That is the geocentric view and is where orion started. Once I realized what he was doing, I switched to 'orbit' so that I couldn't be accused of referring to 'interplanetary intercepts', which I was not.
If you wanted to claim that a 'surface-to-interplanetary' intercept uses heliocentric calculations, that would also be misleading because the calculations are no different, only the 'coordinate system' reference point.
If you wanted to be entirely accurate, you would say that a 'surface-to-interplanetary' intercept uses a sun-centered 'coordinate system' because the math is easier. That is the only reason to use this method.
IMO, 'because the math is easier' is not sufficient reason to believe that using a heliocentric coordinate system actually represents reality.