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Religious Conservatives Slam 'Gay Agenda,' ACLU
CNSNews.com ^ | March 28 2006 | Randy Hall

Posted on 03/28/2006 9:15:39 AM PST by Reagan Man

(CNSNews.com) - Religious conservatives meeting in Washington, D.C., lashed out at homosexual advocacy groups and organizations catering to the political Left on Monday.

One participant criticized the "gay agenda," which he said calls for not only acceptance, but also "affirmation and celebration of this behavior as normal and even desirable."

The two-day conference, entitled "The War on Christians and the Values Voters in 2006," is sponsored by Vision America, an organization that describes its mission as "restoring Judeo-Christian values in America." Conference participants produced a "Values Voters' Contract with Congress," which includes key elements of the conservative, religious agenda.

Based on the Republican Party's 1994 "Contract with America," the "Values Voters' Contract" lists 10 aims, ranging from legislation to keep the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance to laws guaranteeing greater religious freedoms in the workplace, prohibiting human cloning and embryo research, and guaranteeing a "right to life" to all children before birth.

Defending the family is a key goal of the so-called "values voters." The traditional or natural family is one of the targets of the political Left, said Peter LaBarbera, executive director of the Illinois Family Institute. He said he was proud to share the stage with "heroes in the fight for normalcy."

Peter Sprigg, the Family Research Council's vice president for policy, noted that the family "is not merely a social construct subject to infinite redefinition.

"We believe what makes a family is one man and one woman uniting in marriage for a lifetime and bearing children from that union," Sprigg stated. "We are against anything that threatens the traditional family or undermines that idea," including pre-marital sex, pornography, adultery and prostitution.

"And yes, we are also against the practice of homosexuality," he added.

Sprigg said Christians do not hate homosexuals. "On the contrary, we desire the best for them. However, we believe engaging in behavior that is unnatural, immoral and dangerous to the public health and their own health is not the best thing for people with same-sex attractions."

He noted that the FRC and similar organizations also oppose the "gay agenda," which "demands full acceptance of the practice of homosexuality -- morally, socially, legally, religiously, politically and financially.

"Indeed, it calls for not only acceptance, but affirmation and celebration of this behavior as normal and even desirable," Sprigg said.

The Rev. Lou Sheldon, chairman and founder of Traditional Values Coalition, stated that the "gay agenda" would come to a quick end if Americans rose up in numbers against it.

However, "Christians are nice guys, and nice guys finish last," he added.

LaBarbera agreed with Sheldon's analysis. "By simply saying we oppose the sin and not the sinner, we leave the playing field to homosexual activists and their euphemistic talking points, which are 'discrimination,' 'equality' and that poor euphemism, 'sexual orientation,'" he said.

Regina Griggs, executive director of Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays, said that while everyone is a sinner, homosexual behavior can have especially dangerous results. For example, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stated that in 2002, 49 percent of AIDS cases resulted from sexual relations between two males 13 to 24 years of age.

While most speakers said they prefer using the word "homosexual" instead of "gay," Sheldon said he usually sticks with the term's original meaning: "sodomite."

A number of organizations were criticized for supporting the "gay agenda," though one group in particular -- the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) -- was the subject of another panel decrying its "radical secularization" efforts.

Mike Johnson, senior legal counsel of the Alliance Defense Fund, noted that the ACLU has always had a subversive agenda and is the "number one religious censor in America" due to its skillful use of fear, intimidation and misinformation.

One method the ACLU uses to "chip away at the moral and religious foundation of America" is to silence the gospel by removing any references to God in the public square, he said.

However, Mat Staver, founder, president and general counsel of the Liberty Counsel, noted that since Samuel Alito replaced Sandra Day O'Connor on the U.S. Supreme Court, he's noticed a growing reluctance on the ACLU's part to attempt appeals to the highest court in the land.

"Maybe they realize the Supreme Court isn't their social engineering friend anymore," Staver said.

William Donohue, president of the Catholic League, said he has been battling the ACLU for decades, and is encouraged by the "great work" being done by such groups as the Alliance Defense Fund and Liberty Counsel.

Donohue said he has discovered why the ACLU files so many lawsuits to try and force communities to take down nativity scenes. "It's because there aren't three wise men and a virgin in the entire ACLU."

The Human Rights Campaign (HRC), which describes itself as the nation's "largest gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender advocacy organization," says its goal is to ensure that "all GLBT people are ensured of their basic equal rights, and can be open, honest and safe at home, at work and in the community.

"By inspiring and engaging all Americans, HRC strives to end discrimination against GLBT citizens and realize a nation that achieves fundamental fairness and equality for all," the group's website states.

The ACLU's Lesbian & Gay Rights Project brings "impact lawsuits" in state and federal courts throughout the country, according to the group's website.

"Our legal strategies are built on the idea that fighting for civil rights means not just persuading judges but ultimately changing the way people think," the group states.


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To: sasafras

Bravo. Beautifully said.


21 posted on 03/28/2006 9:47:25 AM PST by Greg o the Navy (Democrats: traitors working in partnership with our enemies to destroy the United States of America)
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
None So Blind: Ignoring the Value of Religion (increasing tendency to criticize religion)

Catholic Ping - Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


22 posted on 03/28/2006 9:48:03 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: Terpfen

In order to perceive comedy or satire, you have to have a sense of humor.


23 posted on 03/28/2006 9:48:33 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Nightshift; WKB; Sybeck1; pamlet; aumrl; mariabush; nmh; Ingtar; Blogger; Sweet Hour of Prayer; ...

Baptist ping...

Probably won't see this mentioned on MSM.


24 posted on 03/28/2006 9:48:41 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
None So Blind: Ignoring the Value of Religion (increasing tendency to criticize religion)

Catholic Ping - Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


25 posted on 03/28/2006 9:48:41 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: sasafras

Homosexuals have no more rights than a rapist, pedophile, or incestuous marriages.
____

Well, except for the fact that rape and pedophilia are crimes committed against someone not consenting to the act. People who commit crimes lose some of their rights when convicted of a crime.

Being homosexual is not a crime, so therefore your statement is simply incorrect.

So what sharp tongued response will you have for me, am I allowing evil to prosper or am I just another filthy apologist?


26 posted on 03/28/2006 9:49:03 AM PST by dmz
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To: Greg o the Navy
"Whether or not it's a "choice" homosexuality is, very simply, perverted behavior. It needs to be reclassified as criminal conduct and those who practice it should be incarcerated."

The behavior is clearly a choice. For example, I didn't choose to be heterosexual but I have a choice about having sex or not... at least I do when my wife isn't mad at me. :)

Sex where non-consenting people can see it is clearly public behavior and can be regulated (and should be).

The question is whether the government has a role is dictating private behavior between two adults who both agree to it and don't cause anyone harm. I don't know where the government would get that power - i don't think the people ever meant to give that kind of private control over to the government.
27 posted on 03/28/2006 9:51:34 AM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: Reagan Man
William Donohue, president of the Catholic League

Quoting a nut who can find anti-Catholic bias in a cloud formation doesn't exactly enhance the author's credibility.

28 posted on 03/28/2006 9:52:02 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: gondramB

Look at the bright side. Now you can add the honorific, "F.A." after your name. :)


29 posted on 03/28/2006 9:52:57 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: sasafras
"There really aren't many people proposing any such thing."
No there arent because people like yourself are doing a good job of allowing evil to prosper by sitting on your hands and acting like your above it all.

Yep. Mainstream conservatives are failing in their responsibility to slap down the goofballs in much the same way the Muslim world is failing to slap down the extremists, and with the same long-term results.

30 posted on 03/28/2006 9:54:22 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: sasafras
"Evil is in the eye of the beholder. Rape is evil and so is homosexual sin left unabatted. It is sad that you have no moral bedrock."

No actually am able to separate between the question of sin versus the power of the government. The government is not entitled to regulate sin. they are allowed to stop innocent people from being raped. I can't believe you can't see the difference.


"You didnt answer my question, I know you couldnt have missed it. So tell us should an incestuous marriage between a 18 year old girl and her biological father be allowed."

I did answer but I didn't put a period after it so it may have been unclear. I said "Nope". There are all kinds of restrictions on marriage in addition to the gender restriction. They are all designed to provide the best environment to raise children. For example banning incest and requiring VD tests... These are valid restrictions.
31 posted on 03/28/2006 9:56:49 AM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: gondramB
"Efforts to stop homosexuals from forming domestic partnerships, to have equal rights or to be forced to hide who they are run counter to good strategy and counter to American principles."

But wait a second now you are saying there are restrictions on marriage????? When I asked you if an incestuous marriage among adults is ok you replied, "Nope, there are other restrictions on marriage - I didn't feel the need to catalog them all. "

How is it that homosexuals are above incestuous relationships? According to you it is against American principles to run and hide from who we are? Why shouldnt the incestuous people be allowed to show who they are?

Are you starting to see the folly of your statement? Homosexuals have no more rights than incestuous consenting adults, unless of course you think that daughters and fathers should marry. You can not restrict one and forbid the other it leads you down a slippery slope.

It is sad that people like yourself can not see what they are doing. To you Im sure you think that by allowing homos to show publicly their feelings that you are the better for it. But it is the exact opposite because you infect the rest of society with evil - hell is paved with good intentions.
32 posted on 03/28/2006 9:57:09 AM PST by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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To: sasafras
Homosexuals have no more rights than a rapist, pedophile, or incestuous marriages.

Moral issues aside, I cannot see how you can make an argument that private, consensual relations between adults (even if homosexual) are in any way legally analogous to rape and pedophilia (both of which involve non-consenting victims and/or children) or incestuos marriage (which would require legal recongition).

33 posted on 03/28/2006 9:58:05 AM PST by Potowmack ("Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government")
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To: linda_22003
"Look at the bright side. Now you can add the honorific, "F.A." after your name. :)"

Hey, that is a bright side... Sadly I am on record as opposing honorifics so I can't really use it without being a hypocrite... :(
34 posted on 03/28/2006 9:59:03 AM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: Terpfen

Yes, it is. Unfortunately, too many Americans, especially young people, think that watching Comedy Central/Colbert is watching the news. Our young men, especially, are being "dumbed down" by the absolute tidal wave of homosexual/feminism fanaticism in the public school system.

I know it's satire. You know it's satire. Kids who watch it think it is the Huntley-Brinkely Report.

Life IS short. Make it count.


35 posted on 03/28/2006 10:01:03 AM PST by ishabibble
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To: ishabibble

I have more faith in people's discernment abilities than you do, even those who were born after Huntley-Brinkley. People know it's comedy.


36 posted on 03/28/2006 10:02:41 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Reagan Man

BOTTOM LINE:

Even if all the Special or Extra rights were granted to the homosexual, it still remains -- Same Sex IS immoral and a Sin.

All the leagalizing in the world cannot change this FACT.




If the homosexuals really "Love" each other --
True love sacrifices for the one they love and never leads them to sin. Love each other enough to overcome and not succumb.


37 posted on 03/28/2006 10:03:49 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: ishabibble

"Kids who watch it think it is the Huntley-Brinkely Report."

I'm not sure whether you just know some pretty dense kids or the parents aren't doing their jobs, but the teenagers I know who watch this are well aware it's satire.


38 posted on 03/28/2006 10:05:16 AM PST by Gone GF
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To: steve-b
Quoting a nut...

Why must you resort to name-calling? What about anything Mr. Donohoe says or does would take away credibility from the author?

39 posted on 03/28/2006 10:05:50 AM PST by Lou L
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To: gondramB

I dont even know where to start. Homosexual marriage is in the best interests of children???? You really think that? But this one has got to go into the archive of stupid statements for all time,

"No actually am able to separate between the question of sin versus the power of the government. The government is not entitled to regulate sin. they are allowed to stop innocent people from being raped. I can't believe you can't see the difference."

So tell me genius what is sin? Is it just something that we make up and changes over time? So I guess the govt. should get out of the legal business all together huh? Isnt murder a sin? But wait we wouldnt want the govt to regulate the punishment for someone who commits murder would we? Now that I think about it the govt. according to you is not entitled to regulate almost any crime; because many of them double as sins too? Isnt that a strange coincidence? sarcasm

Also you didnt answer my question again, re. an incestuous marriage - this is betweeen two consenting adults and father and her 18 year old daughter. This has nothing to do with protecting children per your answer - "There are all kinds of restrictions on marriage in addition to the gender restriction. They are all designed to provide the best environment to raise children. For example banning incest and requiring VD tests... These are valid restrictions."

Please try it again - remember its best to stay quiet if you realize that your putting your foot in your mouth.



40 posted on 03/28/2006 10:06:21 AM PST by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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