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To: Enchante; Howlin; piasa; Shermy; the Real fifi; Alamo-Girl
Enchante, you pointed out most of the same things I was about to say :-) Also, Susan Rice was associated with Lake, Berger, and Wilson on African issues at NSC. This NSC association is worth further examination: Clinton had placed Lake in charge of NSC after Lake's nomination for CIA Director (in the midst of the scandal over outgoing Director John Deutch's computer security lapses) was stymied by conservative objections over Lake's ties to the KGB/Castro-linked Institute for Policy Studies and related front groups. Lake was then replaced by Berger in the midst of the FBI's investigation of Chinagate:

Clinton/China timeline

On October 24, 1995, President Clinton had a meeting with Chinese President Jiang Zemin in New York City. Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs Winston Lord (former deputy national security advisor under Henry Kissinger), National Security Advisor Anthony Lake (former State Department official under Henry Kissinger), Secretary Christopher and Robert Suettinger, Director of Asian Affairs for the National Security Council (NSC), joined them at the meeting. No one brought up China's theft of America's weapons designs during the discussion because, at this point, all five claim they had not yet been told.

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November [1995]

CIA Director Deutch allegedly briefed NSC Director Anthony Lake about China's theft of America's nuclear weapon designs sometime in November 1995. The president, allegedly, still had not yet been informed. Lake later claimed he did not recall the briefing, but he and White House officials said there was a record of it.

Also in November, Attorney General Janet Reno, Defense Secretary Perry and FBI Director Louis Freeh allegedly learned of China's theft of all of America's nuclear weapons designs for the first time. Allegedly, no one informed the president.

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July [1996]

On July 3, President Clinton signed another waiver allowing an American satellite to be launched in China. He would sign another six days later.

On July 6, 1996, NSC Director Anthony Lake went to China.

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Also on December 5 [1996], NSC Director Anthony Lake was named as acting CIA director to replace outgoing Director Deutch. During a routine check of outgoing CIA personnel, agents discovered Deutch brought 14,000 top secret government documents home and left them on an unsecured computer hooked up to the Internet. An investigation was immediately begun. Deputy CIA Director George Tenet failed to inform the FBI or Justice Department of his investigation for over a year. President Clinton pardoned Deutch on his last day in office.

Also on December 5, CNN reported Commerce official Melinda Yee threw away documents concerning the department's trade missions after a judge ordered they be turned over to Larry Klayman's Judicial Watch group.

On December 8, 1996, Gen. Chi attended a dinner at the National Defense University in Maryland. The dinner was hosted by Defense Secretary Perry and attended by Alexander Haig, Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Defense Secretary White, Joseph Nye, Sen. John Glenn (Democrat-Ohio), among others.

On December 9, Gen. Chi and Secretary Perry met with President Clinton at the White House. Allegedly, China's theft of America's nuclear weapons designs was never discussed. The president, allegedly, had still not yet been informed.

Chi and Perry then returned to the Pentagon and had a meeting with Ambassador James Sasser. Before leaving the US in mid-December, Gen. Chi was given a tour of Sandia National Laboratory in New Mexico by Defense Secretary Perry. Lab security officials were given little advanced notice of the visit and Chi was not given a normal background check.

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On March 13 [1997], Attorney General Janet Reno claimed she tried to inform Anthony Lake at the NSC about the FBI's information concerning China's attempt to influence America's elections back in June 1996, but did not because she "could not find him". She also said she did not tell President Clinton herself because she felt it was the job of the NSC. Sandy Berger replaced Lake as head of NSC the following day.

FBI Director Freeh told Congress his investigation into campaign finance irregularities was not focusing on individual criminal acts, but on a possible conspiracy involving a foreign government.

So we may well wonder if Berger's (and others') interest in opposing Weldon relates to Chinagate as well.

35 posted on 03/28/2006 1:56:29 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Wow, thanks, lots of good info from you as always! Yes, there is a strong Rice-Wilson-Berger nexus due to the Africa issues with the NSC. I'd still like to know how much Joe Wilson's scam consultancy business rakes in and how much of its funds derives from 'contacts' he made in the Clinton-in-Africa boondoggle.

All the Chinagate issues are huge, of course, but I'm just so discouraged that no one in the MSM will ever practice some real investigative journalism to turn over these rocks and reveal all the worms underneath.....


36 posted on 03/28/2006 2:12:09 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Fedora; ravingnutter

There were very strong indications that ABLE DANGER had unearthed all sorts of possible Chinagate connections. The grotesque tactic used to discredit the entire program (as least from what has been reported by the spineless MSM) is that the fact that Condi Rice and a couple of other names from Stanford came up in the data mining (naturally, since there were Chinagate connections there, and William Perry is a big Stanford dude to this day). The fact that any 'domestic' names came up was used to discredit and disband all of AD, supposedly under some ludicrous interpretation of the law loosely analogous to the people who are saying the NSA surveillance of overseas terrorists must be attacked if it involved any contacts to/from 'domestic' persons in the USA.


37 posted on 03/28/2006 2:16:50 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Fedora

Fedora, thanks--I'm trying to get this out..


38 posted on 03/28/2006 3:02:47 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: Fedora; Enchante
APRIL 2003 late : (LONDON TELEGRAPH UNEARTHS DOCUMENTS LINKING AL QAEDA & IRAQI INTELLIGENCE; CONCERNS THAT CLINTON ADMIN HAD POLITICIZED INTELLIGENCE DATA - MENTION OF SUSAN RICE) The unearthing of documents directly linking Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda organization to Saddam Hussein this weekend may have hermetically sealed the Bush administration's case that dismantling Iraq's Baathist enterprise was in part necessary to undo terrorism's dynamic duo. But closing that case may reopen a Pandora's box for ex-Clinton administration officials who still believe their policy prescriptions protected U.S. national interests against the growing threat of terrorism during the past decade.
The London Telegraph's weekend revelations raise deeply disturbing questions about the extent and magnitude to which President Clinton, his national-security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, and senior terrorism and State Department officials — including Assistant Secretary of State for East Africa, Susan Rice — politicized intelligence data, relied on and even circulated fabricated evidence in making critical national-security decisions, and presided over a string of intelligence failures during the months leading up to the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania.
Analysis of documents found in the rubble of Iraq's intelligence headquarters show that contrary to conventional wisdom, Iraqi military and intelligence officials sought out al Qaeda leaders, not the other way around, and ultimately met with bin Laden on at least two occasions. They also show that channels of communication between al Qaeda and Iraq were created much earlier and were wider ranging in scope than previously thought.
The timing of the meetings sheds important new light on how grave the Clinton administration's intelligence failures may have been.
On February 19, 1998, about six months prior to the attacks in Dar Es Salaam and Nairobi, Iraqi intelligence officials set in motion a plan to bring a senior and trusted bin Laden aide to Baghdad from Khartoum. One of the key Mukhabarat intelligence documents shows that a recommendation was made for "…the deputy director general to bring the [bin Laden] envoy to Iraq because we may find in this envoy a way to maintain contacts with bin Laden." The meetings took place in March 1998. -----------"The Clinton Intel Record Deeper failures revealed. ," by Mansoor Ijaz, National Review Online, 4-29-2003
45 posted on 03/29/2006 4:00:43 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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