Posted on 03/28/2006 4:41:04 AM PST by billorites
Mexicans cheered the proposal approved yesterday by the Senate Judiciary Committee to legalize undocumented migrants and provide temporary work visas, and credited huge marches of migrants across the United States as the decisive factor behind the vote.
Mexican President Vicente Fox said the vote was the result of five years of work dating to the start of his presidential term in 2000, and puts Mexico one step closer toward the governments goal of legalization for everyone who works in the United States.
My recognition and respect for all the Hispanics and all the Mexicans who have made their voice heard, Fox said. We saw them turn out this weekend all across the United States, and thats going to count for a lot as we move forward.
Some Mexican media outlets were even more euphoric, predicting final approval for the committee bill as drafted, and suggesting the weekend demonstrations showed Mexico still holds some sway over former territories which it lost in the 1846-48 Mexican-American War.
With all due respect to Uncle Sam, this shows that Los Angeles has never stopped being ours, reporter Alberto Tinoco said on the Televisa television networks nightly news broadcast, referring to a Saturday march in Los Angeles that drew an estimated 500,000, mainly Mexicans.
But U.S. ambassador Tony Garza warned Mexicans yesterday that the proposal still faces a long, difficult path through Congress.
The debate will no doubt be heated and at times contentious, Garza wrote in an open letter distributed in Mexico City. The debate in the Senate is only one part of the lengthy process.
The bill is designed to strengthen enforcement of U.S. borders, regulate the flow into the country of so-called guest workers and determine the legal future of the estimated 11 million immigrants living in the United States illegally.
The bill would double the Border Patrol and authorizes a virtual wall of unmanned vehicles, cameras and sensors to monitor the U.S.-Mexico border. It also allows more visas for nurses and agriculture workers, and shelters humanitarian organizations from prosecution if they provide non-emergency assistance to illegal residents.
The most controversial provision would permit illegal aliens currently in the country to apply for citizenship without first having to return home, a process that would take at least six years.
Fox has been pushing for a migration accord that would grant some form of legal status to many of the estimated 6 million undocumented Mexicans in the United States. He is likely to bring up the topic when he meets with President Bush starting Thursday in Cancun.
Although a bill granting amnesty to illegal immigrants is unlikely to be approved by Congress, Fox remains hopeful that at least a guest-worker program will be put in place before he leaves office on Dec. 1.
If the United States approves such a program, it would bolster Foxs image and aid the prospects of Felipe Calderon, presidential candidate for Foxs National Action Party, or PAN, said George Grayson, a Mexico expert at the College of William & Mary.
Fox is looking for some way to be remembered in history, Grayson said.
Illegal migration has emerged as a significant issue in the campaigns of Mexicos three major presidential hopefuls for the July 2 elections, and the United States has asked Mexico to do more to strengthen security along their common border.
No its our government that has stacked the cards against us. If Mexicans can work for lower pay, with out workers comp, or be covered by sexual harassment law, or other workers benefits, like the artificial Minimum wage, then why cant Americans? Would you rather have no job, or one that pays less than minimum wages?
So once they become legal, they will have to be paid higher wages so we will need more illegals to replace them.
I'm not too sure what kind of respect if any that shows to our forefathers who've spilled their blood for this great nation.
Does this sound like "assimilation" to anyone?
Yes.
We are being assimilated.
I refuse to support a GOP which openly advocates a proposal which puts my kids and grandkids in jeopardy of gangbanger drug cartels, not to mention the fact that illegals are dragging our schools into the dregs of third world-ism.
But who will mow our lawns?
Who will restock the shelves at China-Mart?
Next time think before flying off the handle like that!
No.
Any other questions?
Signed,
Don "Party-pooper" Joe
hope you are wrong, but anyway it will not effect what I will do..many of us combat vets may have to take up arms again, but it should not get to that point if we can wake up the GOP and Dems to the fact that we are not taking this sitting down..we shall see..
Bastards sold us out!
The "root cause" is that "our" leaders -- and, the "interests" that own "our" leaders (lobbyists paying legislators for continued access to cheap labor, "motor-voter" constituents, etc.) -- want the illegals to continue the invasion.
The problem is that "the problem" is not perceived as a "problem" by those who are calling the shots.
Oh, sure, we make noise, and they pump sunshine up... up where it really shouldn't be, and at the end of the day, it's business as usual.
The only thing that would accomplish would be for you to get cut down, and then be used as "proof" that anyone opposed to "reasonable guest-werker provisions" is a dangerous radical anti-american criminal... oh, and right, we need more gun control laws too.
I hate to be the party pooper, but that's how they're going to play the game. The disease has progressed to the point that it is going to run its course. No one will be allowed to stand up against the immense power of the state, and anyone who tries, will be cut down, and made an example of to the rest of the sheep.
Well, good news. It probably won't be too long before you won't hear that anymore. Instead, you'll hear "Press 2 para Ingles."
[Of course, no one -- politician, citizen, illegal -- expects that to happen. So all that 'go to the end of the line' is just a line, a load of crap. It is like that 'jobs Americans won't do', which is another load of crap. The argument might work IF no Americans are currently employed in those functions. The argument fails because there ARE Americans who work in the fields, who pick lettuce, who clean toilets at Holiday Inn, who sweep up office buildings, etc. Every day there are Americans doing those jobs. It is an insult to imply that they don't. It is elitist to assume they don't.]
Bingo.
My wife, when she was a teenager in high school, worked on the farms during the summer. Hard work -- picking asparagus and cherries -- low pay. But evidently better pay than the current influx of Mexicans that now fill the police blotter section of the local newspaper are willing to accept.
And BTW, my wife was not a "no-career dead-ender" -- she is a schoolteacher, working at the same school she attended. Of course, today, she is expected to "teach" subjects like math and "advanced computers" to the children of illegal aliens who cannot speak a word of English.
It is a total farce. The school system plays the game, because they get mucho-thousandero dinero per annum for each smiling face occupying a seat. So, they "take the classes", they "graduate" (or, more realistically, they "migrate" out after a few months, only to be replaced by other illegal non-english-speakers), and the money flows, flows, flows, like a river.
Unfortunately, I don't think that is what they have in mind.
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Well, golly, the Invasion of Normandy was hard too! There wasn't any "universally acceptable solution to the disposition of" all those Germans!
I guess we should have simply handed them all "Welcome to France!" gift packs and signed them up for "benefits", eh?
So, it's not easy to deal with an in-country invasion force of twelve million? So, we do nothing?
We don't even deport any of them?
If it's hard to deal with EVERY illegal, the solution is to deal with NONE of them?
Earth to The Defeated: If we start deporting them when we find them, we won't need to deport twelve million of them. Most of them will self-deport, lest they be the next to experience "the deportation process" (which I suggest include things like a month in jail, living on "punishment loaf" and water, with hard labor, prior to being put on the bus to Mexico).
Good grief.
This is NOT rocket science.
To not grasp the obvious, is to create the impression that one wants to keep the invaders here, and is looking for any convenient pretext to rationalize it, because it might not be real popular to simply stand up and say, "Well, I like having the illegals here! They work cheap, and keep their mouths shut!"
As a LEGAL resident alien, who went through the system to live and work here, I had to undergo a medical examination to ensure that I was not bringing any disease with me.
What would happen with all these illegals. Will THEY have to line up for medicals or do they get a free pass because they broke the law?
Substitute the bulk of this article as Iranian rather than Mexican reaction and I wonder how our government would react? The enemy is inside the gates and we refuse to call it what it is. All of the various strategies to control the border or deport illegals mean nothing is our own government either lacks the will or actively works against our will. We need to replace too many of our own representatives as a first step.
The three of liberty needs watering again if this keeps up.
tree sorry I am so mad today I am cross eyed.
I think that this is a very important point. They should have a physical which they pay for and be free of communicable disease, especially TB. By the way, many will be deported when they do not meet criteria. Besides, this is not done, yet, by a long shot. The senate is not finished, and then the bill goes to conferance with the House. This is just a committee vote, for heavens sake. I do think that everyone from White House to Congress thinks that there will be agreement, though.
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