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Senate Panel Approves Immigration Bill
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Posted on 03/27/2006 4:08:50 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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This is unreal, I'm embarrased by one of my Senator's remarks...

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Florida's illegal immigrants at stake
A U.S. Senate bill will weigh on the state's economy and politics.


Written by: Frank Davies | Publication: Orlando Sentinel

March 27, 2006 -
WASHINGTON -- Florida, where thousands of illegal immigrants help fuel a rapidly growing economy, has much at stake next week when the Senate debates major changes to a broken immigration system.

Mel Martinez, the only foreign-born member of the Senate, will play a major role in fashioning a bill that would allow some illegal immigrants to stay and legalize their status.

As a supporter of the Bush administration's guest-worker proposal and the only Hispanic Republican in the Senate, Martinez hopes to nudge some reluctant GOP colleagues to look beyond border security to deal with the nation's estimated 11 million illegal residents.

"Mel Martinez has been a key senator on this issue, and very energetic," said Douglas Rivlin, spokesman for the National Immigration Forum, a leading advocacy group. "He's negotiating with other Republicans and has to deal with strong disagreement from some members of his party."

There are important political elements to this debate, which has sparked protests throughout the country during the past week.

Led by President Bush, Republicans have made inroads in the Hispanic vote in recent elections. Bush seeks a guest-worker program that would allow some illegal workers to stay up to six years, and the subject is likely to come up when he meets Thursday with Mexican President Vicente Fox in Mexico.

But the issue has deeply divided the GOP, and the showdown in the Senate will test Bush's influence in Congress. The immigration bill passed by the U.S. House in December under GOP leadership is seen as draconian by many Hispanics.

House favors tight controls

The House bill toughens enforcement, calls for 700 miles of fences along the border with Mexico, sanctions employers who do not adequately check their workers' status and could lead to the prosecution of anyone, including church groups, who helps an illegal immigrant. It has no provision for temporary workers.

"That's not the Republican Party of President Bush, Jeb Bush and Mel Martinez," Martinez said of the House bill. "We have to have an understanding and respect for all Americans -- and those who want to become Americans."

Martinez and key Republicans such as Sen. John McCain of Arizona will push for a bill in the Senate closer to Bush's position to counter the House measure.

The Judiciary Committee, with a majority favoring some plan to legalize the status of illegal immigrants, meets Monday and may vote out a bill quickly, two staff members said.

Difficult issues remain: Would illegal immigrants have to return to their countries to apply to be legal, temporary workers? Could that be waived if employers vouch for their work? How long could they stay in the United States? What fine or fees would they pay? Would they be eligible for citizenship?

In an election year, some senators want to duck these issues. And some Republicans, especially in the House, say most voters want a crackdown on illegal immigration.

"There's broad public dissatisfaction with any plan that does not start with enforcement," said Steven Camarota, research director for the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors tight controls on immigration.

"People don't want an increase in immigration, and legalizing someone who is illegal just sticks in their craw," Camarota said.

Work-force effect debated

But the reality of illegal immigrants, and their importance to the economy of Florida, is difficult to ignore. The Florida Fruit and Vegetable Association, based in Maitland, estimates that at least half the agricultural work force in the state is illegal, despite employers' efforts to check documents, spokesman Ray Gilmer said.

Camarota estimates there are at least 473,000 illegal workers in Florida, based on census and academic data.

Last year, immigration agents raided the construction site of the new federal building in Orlando and arrested 66 laborers for working illegally.

"Whether you like it or not, many jobs are filled by illegal workers," Martinez recently told the Forum Club in West Palm Beach.

His warning: "Without such a work force, crops will stay in the field, they won't come to market, food prices will go up, and Florida's economy will take a huge hit."

Camarota dismisses that talk as alarmist and said employers would attract more native-born workers to low-skill jobs if they offered better wages, benefits and working conditions.

But Martinez said he is making headway with "John Q. Public" in Florida when he explains how a guest-worker program would function. And he tells his own compelling story of how his family sent him from Cuba at 16 after Castro's revolution, and he lived with foster parents in Central Florida until his own parents could leave.

Martinez said he agrees with conservative columnist David Brooks of The New York Times that the GOP could easily lose Florida, with its diverse Hispanic population, and the Southwest if it is identified with a harsh "enforcement only" approach.

"This is a case where good politics follows good policy," Martinez said in an interview. "And it's smart politics for our party."

Frank Davies can be reached at 202-824-8222 or fdavies@tribune.com.


41 posted on 03/27/2006 4:21:32 PM PST by ThePoliticalDookie
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To: Euro-American Scum
Its about an on-going subsidy for big business. But if the Senate thinks profits should trump national security, let's make all 25 million illegals American citizens automatically. Let's drop the racist nonsense of a "guest worker" program and second-class status for these people. I mean if they're need to fill jobs no American will take, it makes no sense to deport them or enforce our immigration laws. If we lack the will to protect our country, let's keep our open borders and grant automatic U.S citizenship to any one who steps aground on our soil. Let's do it today!

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

42 posted on 03/27/2006 4:22:30 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge

Those republicans are shortsighted and stupid. They just voted for 11 million welfare voters a step closer to draining our coffers dry while sending their welfare check (once cashed) back to Mexico. I am disgusted with the republican party.


43 posted on 03/27/2006 4:22:35 PM PST by rodeocowboy
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To: mystery-ak
Just heard Major Garrett on Fox say the Frist will not let this bill come to the Senate floor...

That will get him my vote.

44 posted on 03/27/2006 4:22:38 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: NormsRevenge
Sen. Jon Kyl (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., and other conservatives said anything but a requirement for illegal immigrants to return home amounted to amnesty, and he said he had national opinion on his side.

Yes, he does. I cannot even express my disgust that this POS made it out of committee.
45 posted on 03/27/2006 4:22:56 PM PST by Serenissima Venezia (U.S. a 3rd world soon: not educating enough scientists/engineers and being invaded by illegals)
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To: acrosoc101
Only four republicans voted for the senate "compromise." Frist already said the bill is dead and won't be brought before the senate. Good for Frist.

Let's see if they would have casted their votes that way IF they were the deciding vote. NO WAY! They all are bought & paid for & this was the typical "Potomac Shuffle". Remember every important issue the "Two-Party Cartel" comes together on. Always at the cost of the taxpaying middle class. So elect these fools again. Be a nice little American & put your bumper sticker on for that great GOP. This is what you have been voting for.

46 posted on 03/27/2006 4:23:36 PM PST by Digger
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To: NormsRevenge
"Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., chairman of the committee, said he was "trying to thread the needle" to produce a bill that could command widespread support."

He looked awfully happy after the vote for someone who just failed so miserably at doing what he supposedly set out to do.
47 posted on 03/27/2006 4:23:41 PM PST by mthom
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To: SampleMan

Mine too.


48 posted on 03/27/2006 4:23:51 PM PST by antceecee (...some people would complain if you hung 'em with a new rope...)
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To: acrosoc101
Only four republicans voted for the senate "compromise." Frist already said the bill is dead and won't be brought before the senate.

Now THAT is good to hear!
49 posted on 03/27/2006 4:23:56 PM PST by Serenissima Venezia (U.S. a 3rd world soon: not educating enough scientists/engineers and being invaded by illegals)
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To: Dane; Arizona Carolyn

Look who's here folks...it is the chairman of the "Pro-Criminal/Free Trade at all Costs/Open Border Lobby" crowd on FR.


50 posted on 03/27/2006 4:24:02 PM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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To: NormsRevenge
committee also voted to strip out proposed criminal penalties for residents found to be in this country illegally.

WTF ????? I thought we didn't negotiate with terrorists.

51 posted on 03/27/2006 4:24:08 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Islam's true face: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J169127BC)
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To: Dane
Dane, as one of the biggest sellouts on this topic, I'd expect nothing less from you. We have between 20 and 30 million illegal aliens in this nation, tens and hundreds of thousands of them now openly carrying Mexican flags to denigrate our nation's laws even further than they already have.

In response to this, you slither around threads seeking a way to insult those who have warned against this for a decade or more. I may disgust you. If so, that pleases me immensely.
52 posted on 03/27/2006 4:24:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: mthom

Arlen Specter needs to be retired. What an elitist fool. Just go home.


53 posted on 03/27/2006 4:24:52 PM PST by SC33
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To: Dane

America taxpayers will not subsidize your desire for cheap labor, o commandante of our resident San Patricio Battalion.

No. Those of us who want America to remain a first world country will go to the mattresses on this.


54 posted on 03/27/2006 4:25:06 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: NormsRevenge
"All Americans wanted fairness and they got it this evening,"

All Americans ILLEGALS wanted fairness and they got it this evening.

There ya go, I fixed it!

55 posted on 03/27/2006 4:25:19 PM PST by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: mthom

Amazing!!!!!


56 posted on 03/27/2006 4:25:20 PM PST by antceecee (...some people would complain if you hung 'em with a new rope...)
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To: indcons

I think it's time to send Lindsay Graham (VP Graham) home to stay.

I emailed Frist to stand up to Specter (this time) and this bill should never, ever, see the light of day on the floor. I see our Senate is the problem, much more than our congress. Could it be because half the senate is running for President in '08 and are pandering for the Mexican vote?


57 posted on 03/27/2006 4:25:54 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: goldstategop
It's about an on-going subsidy for big business.

Another discerning Freeper figures it out. If there were big profits for the Fortune 500 in deportation, you'd have deportation in a hot second.

58 posted on 03/27/2006 4:25:56 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: SC33

WTF is Arlen Specter even doing? What a jacka**. Please, just retire.


59 posted on 03/27/2006 4:26:23 PM PST by SC33
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