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LIVE thread - Immigration Reform Markup 10am [Senate Judiciary]
C-span ^ | 3-27-06 | US Senate

Posted on 03/27/2006 6:56:23 AM PST by OXENinFLA

Immigration Reform Markup

Sen. Arlen Spector (R-PA) chairs a full Judiciary Committee meeting to mark up pending legislation including a draft bill on comprehensive immigration overhaul. Also, the committee will vote on a bill to televise Supreme Court proceedings and judicial nominations to federal courts.

MON. ON C-SPAN AT 10AM ET


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 109th; immigration; immigrationreform
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To: Cboldt; Bahbah; Mo1

Are they voting on Lobbying Reform in the Senate now??

Final passage?


301 posted on 03/27/2006 2:34:09 PM PST by Txsleuth
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Kyl reiterates his amendment that requires the alien to return to his home country, and literally get in the back of the line when applying for permanant status.

Graham says "no."

Kyl uses the example of a kid who snuck into a movie. The usher catches him. Instead of having to leave the movie, the usher lets the kid buy a ticket from his seat; but "back of the line" would have the kid leave the theater and standin the back of the line.

Good analogy, but doesn't reflect the predetermined solution here, which is to legitimize a certain segment of aliens who are presently in the country illegally, without much disruption to their activities.

The Kyl amendment failed.

302 posted on 03/27/2006 2:35:00 PM PST by Cboldt
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Never mind...it is a nomination vote.


303 posted on 03/27/2006 2:35:07 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth
Are they voting on Lobbying Reform in the Senate now?

No. Dennis Spurgeon, Ass't Sec. Energy.

The lobbying reform Bill has a couple items lingering - one being Schumer's Dubai amendment, and the second being Frist's Internet proposal (IIRC on that second point).

304 posted on 03/27/2006 2:37:31 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Txsleuth
If anyone has paid any attention to the protests, they most certainly do NOT want to become AMERICAN citizens, they want to be Mexicans living in America legally, will ALL benefits, but NO ASSIMILATION...

And that is the predetermined outcome. "See, we aren't giving them citizenship, so y'all need to lighten up."

305 posted on 03/27/2006 2:38:42 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Txsleuth

"NOT want to become AMERICAN citizens, they want to be Mexicans living in America legally, will ALL benefits, but NO ASSIMILATION..."

Exactly. They want to turn the country into Miami.


306 posted on 03/27/2006 2:41:09 PM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: Cboldt

Durbin is getting testy about why they won't vote on such an "easy" amendment, making the illegals NOT being called "illegal"???

Oh, yeah---that makes sense.


307 posted on 03/27/2006 2:41:38 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Cboldt; All
Could someone bring me up to speed on Linsay Graham's (NC-R) position on immigration reform?

I've hit this cspan coverage very intermittently today.

Is he for, against, soft in the middle?

Thanks for indulging me.

308 posted on 03/27/2006 2:42:42 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: Sunnyflorida

"They want to turn the country into Miami."

Or is it vice versa?


309 posted on 03/27/2006 2:42:58 PM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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Durbin doesn't want them not only to not be CALLED illegals..he wants it to made "not criminal"..which makes them legal, I guess.

Isn't that amnesty??


310 posted on 03/27/2006 2:43:25 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth
Durbin doesn't want them not only to not be CALLED illegals..he wants it to made "not criminal"..which makes them legal, I guess. Isn't that amnesty??

It's denial of reality. He's pushing for breaking the law, because to do otherwise, is not PC.

311 posted on 03/27/2006 2:45:12 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: kstewskis

Graham is in the McCain/Kennedy camp.


312 posted on 03/27/2006 2:45:43 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Txsleuth
If Durbin has his way nothing will be illegal.
313 posted on 03/27/2006 2:45:45 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Cboldt
An important thing to understand is that the Committee is trying to get something out of committee and presented to the floor for debate tomorrow.

If no bill gets through committee, Frist has promised that his bill is going to be debated. Dingy Harry has promised a fillibuster of any bill that does not go through committee.

The process today is just a mad attempt to get something through by the end of the day. Specter is pushing hard to get this to the floor. Amendments will be made on the floor. The Senate version will go to conference. The House will not approve of anything that gives amnesty.

314 posted on 03/27/2006 2:46:44 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Cboldt
Graham is in the McCain/Kennedy camp.

Damn. I used to like him too. Especially during the Clinton impeachment days.

Another "R" in the spineless column.

315 posted on 03/27/2006 2:47:56 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: Cboldt

Thanks anyways - if I find the language, I will let you know.


316 posted on 03/27/2006 2:51:14 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
If no bill gets through committee, Frist has promised that his bill is going to be debated.

A motion to take up Frist's bill is already on the floor, in the form of a cloture motion to take up his bill for debate. He filed both, the bill and the cloture motion, the Thursday before Congress took their recess.

The process today is just a mad attempt to get something through by the end of the day. Specter is pushing hard to get this to the floor.

It's an exercise in face-saving for the Judicairy Committee, and in particular, its chairman.

The Senate version will go to conference. The House will not approve of anything that gives amnesty.

Yup. Plenty of debate to come. This is a very preliminary round.

317 posted on 03/27/2006 2:51:28 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: kstewskis
If they keep going for the Durbin amendments then all Illegal immigration will become legal migration. The Legal Migration Bill.
318 posted on 03/27/2006 2:51:44 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Cboldt
But this action in the Judiciary Committee is a hurried rush

I'm listening on XM Radio from the office so I'm missing quite a bit but I do get the sense that the chairman is more interested in getting done as opposed to what's getting done.

319 posted on 03/27/2006 2:51:57 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Dolphy

You would be correct....they are voting on final passage right now...and I can tell you that Cornyn, Kyl and Sessions...and I am sure Coburn who isn't there today..

will NOT be happy with this at all.


320 posted on 03/27/2006 2:56:48 PM PST by Txsleuth
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