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To: Polybius; B4Ranch
Well, thanks, I represent that remark since I was born in Cuba.

You're welcome here, but this is an Anglo-Saxon culture. If you're well-assimilated, you have a little of your old culture left, but you recognize and appreciate ours more. When do you think the tipping point will come when it will no longer be "Anglo-Saxon?"

If you think the nativists of the 1800s were worried about the same levels of immigration, compare the numbers in this post. From 2000 to 2004 we had more illegal immigration than even came through Ellis Island during the entire 1890s.

If you care about this country, you'll want to start limiting additional Hispanic immigration yourself. From your reply to mine, I see you as an advocate for the tide rising against the Anglo-Saxon core of our nation's base.

You're part of the problem, and the fact that you're Hispanic only serves as a reminder that we can't trust an overwhelming majority of Hispanics to preserve our founding values. consider the

58 posted on 03/26/2006 11:37:59 AM PST by John Filson
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To: John Filson

Uh, this is NOT an "Anglo-Saxon" culture. This is an American culture. We are richer and stronger because of the DESIRE of people everywhere to be free and, therefore, American.

There are citizens of AMERICA from every background and ancestry imaginable who have built this country, who make it great and make it strong.

The U.S.A. is every bit the country of (indigenous) Indians and citizens with African, Cuban, Irish, German, Welsh, Polish, Chinese, Japanese, Peruvian, Guatemalan, Australian, Cambodian, Vietnamese, Egyptian, Lebanese, Jordanian, French, Danish, Swedish, Icelandic, and yes Mexican, etcetera --- ancestry as it is of those with Anglo-Saxon ancestry (which are very few anyway).

Even England is not Anglo-Saxon. Get a grip.


60 posted on 03/26/2006 11:47:53 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Walk softly, carry a big stick... and don't forget to connect the dots ...)
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To: John Filson
You're welcome here, but this is an Anglo-Saxon culture. If you're well-assimilated, you have a little of your old culture left, but you recognize and appreciate ours more.

Actually, I have most of my old culture left which was much like the culture of World War II America. During the 1960's, when America's youth was into drugs, free sex and burning American flags while my uncle was a Green Beret in Vietnam, my father would complain that we were more American than the native born Americans.

I have passed that culture on to my kids which, in our corner of the Left Coast, means that they don't have tattoos, their bodies aren't pierced, they are still virgins, they don't do drugs, they don't go out on the street looking like a hooker or with their butt crack showing and they leave their peers in the dust academically.

When do you think the tipping point will come when it will no longer be "Anglo-Saxon?"

1903.

I hate to be the one to break your delusions of Anglo-Saxon ethnic purity but you are 100 years behind the times. America ceased being predominantly "Anglo-Saxon" quite a while ago.

In 1900, only 51 percent of the U. S. population was native white and of native parentage (Palen, 1987, p. 210). ..... 1. In eastern seaboard cities such as Boston and New York over 75 percent of the population was of foreign stock (foreign-born or second-generation), (Palen, 1987, p. 210). ...... 2. "By 1890 New York had half as many Italians as Naples, as many Germans as Hamburg, twice as many Irish as Dublin, and two-and-a-half times the number of Jews in Warsaw (Palen, p. 78)."

Your "tipping point" occurred 100 years ago.

The Nativist writers of the last half of the 1800's railed against the flood of Papist Irishmen and Jews and Eastern Europeans and Italians and Poles and Germans and Scandinavians that threatened to overwhelm the old and pure "Anglo-Saxon" stock.

As I said before, unless you came out of the hollows of Appalachia, I seriously doubt that your family tree would qualify as "Anglo-Saxon" to the 19th Century Nativist who would die of shame if his family tree were polluted by the bloodline of Americans named Joe DiMaggio or Sean Hannity or Kowalski or, God forbid, some Eastern European Jew named Jonas Salk.

A 19th Century American Nativist would consider 21st Century American culture as definitely "foreign" and would consider the average American's bloodline as definitely NOT "Anglo-Saxon".

He would look at the majority of our troops fighting in Iraq and scream in disgust, "See! I told you so!. We have become a nation of mongrels!!!"

However, it is the conceit of some 21st Century Americans with Irish, Polish and German roots to wear the old 19th Century badge of "Anglo-Saxon" when, in fact, the actual pure 19th Century "Anglo-Saxons" put up signs directed at their ancestors that said "No Foreigners Need Apply".

If you think the nativists of the 1800s were worried about the same levels of immigration, compare the numbers in this post. From 2000 to 2004 we had more illegal immigration than even came through Ellis Island during the entire 1890s.

In 1890, the U.S. population was a little over 62 million. 3.7 million immigrants in the 1890's represented 6% of the entire U.S. population. 3.8 million in 2006 represents a little over 1% of the U.S. population.

In order to have the same impact on the current U.S. population as the Ellis Island immigration did, your current immigration number would have to be almost 18 million.

If you care about this country, you'll want to start limiting additional Hispanic immigration yourself. From your reply to mine, I see you as an advocate for the tide rising against the Anglo-Saxon core of our nation's base.

America is a set of ideals and values and not a breeding club for so-called "Anglo-Saxons" that long ago ceased to be "Anglo-Saxons".

You're part of the problem, and the fact that you're Hispanic only serves as a reminder that we can't trust an overwhelming majority of Hispanics to preserve our founding values.

Since coming here in 1960, between my uncle, my brother my sister and myself, we have 48 years of combined military service to America that has included service in the Navy, the Green Berets and the 10th Mountain Division and three combat tours and two Purple Hearts. We do not have a single drop of Anglo-Saxon blood in our veins.

Between my wife, her grandfather, her brother and her two uncles, they have 90 years of combined military service to America that has included three wars, seven combat tours (one of them being "for the duration" of World War II starting right after Pearl Harbor) and three Purple Hearts. They do not have a single drop of Anglo-Saxon blood in their veins.

The Third Reich, not America, was the country founded on the value of ethnic purity. So, John Filson, you can take your Anglo-Saxon ethnic purity "value" and cram it where the sun doesn't shine.

I judge a person by what he does and thinks and not what his ethnic purity is.

I have posted several times outlining specific measures to deal with and drastically reduce illegal immigration. I object to illegal immigrants because they are illegal and I also object to many legal immigrants and some native born Americans because they do not have a love for America.

You, however, are stuck on the 19th Century issue of an "Anglo-Saxon" ethnic purity that no longer exists and are worried about the "Anglo-Saxon" population tipping points that actually occured a century ago.

79 posted on 03/26/2006 3:34:17 PM PST by Polybius
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