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Navy Destroyer Collides with Merchant Ship
Fox News ^ | March 26, 2006 | AP

Posted on 03/26/2006 4:07:04 AM PST by stm

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — A U.S. Navy destroyer collided with a merchant ship in the Persian Gulf off Iraq, slightly injuring four people, the Navy said Sunday.

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KEYWORDS: collisionatsea; maritime; navy; ussmccampbell
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Big ocean, little ship theory has never held.
1 posted on 03/26/2006 4:07:07 AM PST by stm
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To: stm

Women and minorities hardest hit...


2 posted on 03/26/2006 4:18:25 AM PST by Old Sarge (My vigor to fight has been renewed.)
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To: stm
Big ocean, little ship theory has never held.

The Persian Gulf (or "Arabian Gulf" in Navy terminology) is a tricky place. It is big, to be sure, but it is not very deep.

3 posted on 03/26/2006 4:21:44 AM PST by Drew68
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To: stm

woops


4 posted on 03/26/2006 4:23:46 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: stm

Likely career-ender for that ship's captain.


5 posted on 03/26/2006 4:24:16 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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Almost guaranteed. I have never heard of a case where a US Navy captain hit another ship and was still able to command another ship, regardless of who was at fault.
6 posted on 03/26/2006 4:30:40 AM PST by burzum (A single reprimand does more for a man of intelligence than a hundred lashes for a fool.--Prov 17:10)
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To: stm

Could be a warning shove-used to happen during the Cold War.


7 posted on 03/26/2006 4:32:38 AM PST by American Vet Repairman (Liberalism has killed more Americans than the Taliban)
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8 posted on 03/26/2006 4:38:16 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: stm
Merchant Vessel, U.S. Navy Ship Collide in Persian Gulf
Story Number: NNS060326-01
3/26/2006
image: Top News Story

From Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command/Commander, U.S. 5th Fleet Public Affairs

NORTH PERSIAN GULF (NNS) -- The Kiribati-flagged merchant vessel M/V Rokya 1 and USS McCampbell (DDG 85) collided at 11:09 p.m., local time, March 25, approximately 30 miles southeast of the Iraqi coastline in the North Persian Gulf.

Two U.S. Sailors received minor injuries as a result of the collision. Two crew members from Rokya 1 also received minor injuries and were treated on-scene by McCampbell’s independent duty corpsman.

Rokya 1 and McCampbell, an Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer, both received damage on the bow and are deemed seaworthy. The cause of the accident is under investigation.

McCampbell, homeported in San Diego and currently on a routine six-month deployment, is one of several coalition assets conducting maritime security operations under the direction of Combined Task Force (CTF) 58. CTF 58 is responsible for the security of the Al Basra and Khawr Al Amaya Iraqi oil terminals, which are the main sources of revenue for the Iraqi reconstruction effort.

9 posted on 03/26/2006 4:38:50 AM PST by csvset
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10 posted on 03/26/2006 4:41:10 AM PST by csvset
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To: burzum
Almost guaranteed. I have never heard of a case where a US Navy captain hit another ship and was still able to command another ship, regardless of who was at fault.
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There might have been. But they were probably sail-powered.
Seriously, there are a lot of officers who are qualified for command of a ship who never get a command because it's a numbers game.
Why would you want to give an officer who screwed up a second chance? When you could easily find another who hasn't?
What admiral would want such a captain in his command, and take the risk he screw up again?
11 posted on 03/26/2006 4:58:35 AM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: csvset

Where is the nearest destroyer size body shop?


12 posted on 03/26/2006 5:00:57 AM PST by em2vn
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Probably UAE, (the port take over guys /s).

Just joking, but probably true, that or Bahrain.

13 posted on 03/26/2006 5:08:31 AM PST by csvset
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To: FreedomPoster
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will no doubt feel compelled to weigh in on the ending of Commander McBeths' career.


14 posted on 03/26/2006 5:17:02 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Cheburashka

I does on occasion happen....

"...the 22-year old Nimitz, now an Ensign, was sent immediately on board USS Decatur (DD-5) to take command. At the time, Decatur had been out of commission for about a year – in some form of inoperative or reserve status in which the ship was not only cold iron but without any crew. When he went on board, still in the whites with sword that he had worn to make his formal call, he was greeted by two Filipino watchmen, since a crew was still being assembled. Surmounting the problems of an idle ship, unbunkered with a scratch crew, ENS Nimitz managed to get Decatur to the dry dock at Subic Bay within the two-and-a-half days demanded by the admiral.

The war scare over, Decatur operated independently for almost two years in Philippine waters. In July 1908, on entering an unfamiliar harbor in Manila Bay she ran aground and had to be towed off the next day. Relieved of command and court-martialed, Nimitz was found guilty of “neglect of duty” and sentenced to a reprimand. The Commander-in-Chief of U.S. Naval Forces Philippines declared in his endorsement, “The promulgation of the proceedings and sentence will be regarded as constituting in itself the reprimand.” Later in life, as an admiral, Nimitz was quick to cite this incident when questioned if anyone who ran a ship aground could have a future in the Navy."


15 posted on 03/26/2006 6:29:27 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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Commander McBeth? I can see him pacing his bridge, wringing his hands...

(I know, it is MACbeth, but...couldn't resist)


16 posted on 03/26/2006 6:31:03 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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Thank you for the information. I stand corrected.
Admiral Nimitz did good service for his country. His admiral's light punishment to him paid great dividends to the the United States of America.
But without denigrating his service, I am sure that in 1941 another admiral could have been found who would have done a comparable job for his country, had Nimitz left the Navy after this mishap.
Don't ask me for a name, though.
17 posted on 03/26/2006 6:36:54 AM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Cheburashka; All

Here is another one, and...this one I know about personally. THIS was quite a day. During the day, I had been sleeping in the cockpit of my plane near the waist cats, when I felt the whole plane shudder...I looked to the rear just in time to see the tail fins of a Tomcat going away from my plane...I saw the plane next to me shake violently, as if it had been collided with, but after thinking about it, I think it was just the wash, because I do not remember one of our planes being damaged. One of our Tomcats had gone over the side with a new Phoenix missle installed, in full sight of a Soviet cruiser that was shadowing us. As I recall, the Tomcat when over the Port side near the waist cats, and the Soviet cruiser was off of our Starboard bow. She saw what happened, and went to cut across our bow (not dangerous...she was probably 3-5 miles ahead of us) to get a better look, but was cut off by one of our escorts.

Later that SAME NIGHT (good God, was this a full moon?) I was again sleeping in the cockpit of my plane (I was an A7-B Plane Captain at the time) was huddled, trying to stay warm, when I was abrubtly awakened by a sharp banging noise. My heart pounding, I looked around, and there looking in at me was one of those guys all dressed in the silver flame-proof suit! Now THAT really scared the crap out of me! I opened the canopy, and the guy said "You better get your ass below and check in, we had a collision with another ship!" The ass end of my plane was hanging out over the starboard side where the collision had taken place (I think I was much further forward from where that happened, though) and I had slept right through it!)

Anyway, here is that summary, and that Captain kept his job.

During the summer of 1976, Bordelon participated in the USS Independence's ORI (Operational Readiness Inspection) and deployed to northern Europe as part of the largest maritime NATO exercise to date, "Teamwork 76". On 14 Sept., while refueling alongside the USS John F. Kennedy, the ships came together and collided. The Bordelon's port bow and some of the superstructure were damaged and the main mast snapped and fell on the signal shack, injuring some of the handling team.

Bordelon, escorted by USS Brumby FF 1044, sailed to the Devonport Royal Navy Yard in Plymouth, England. After 11 days getting repairs and a Pathfinder navigation radar, Bordelon, in company with the USS Kalamazoo AOR 6 and USS Luce DDG 38, proceeded under her own power to Charleston, SC.

On Jan 6th, 1977 XO George Ellis relieved CDR George Pierce. Due to the damage to the superstructure and electronics and the age and condition of the hull, the Bordelon was de-commissioned on Feb. 1, 1977. Cdr. Pierce was cleared of blame during the post-collision inquiry and later commanded the USS Cone DD 866.


18 posted on 03/26/2006 7:25:15 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: FreedomPoster

Not "likely" at all. CERTAIN is more like it.


19 posted on 03/26/2006 7:27:28 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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As you can see from my above posts, a grounding or collision is not a certain career ender, but...there better be a darn good excuse!


20 posted on 03/26/2006 7:46:59 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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