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Hundreds of thousands rally in LA for immigrants' rights
The Press - Enterprise ^ | 03-25-06 | Peter Prengaman & Bob Jablon

Posted on 03/25/2006 8:03:27 PM PST by Amerigomag

Angered by what they see as increasing hostility toward immigrants, hundreds of thousands of people converged on City Hall Saturday to demand amnesty for illegal aliens and reject federal legislation that would build more walls along the U.S.-Mexico border. Protesters, wearing white T-shirts to symbolize peace, danced, chanted and carried large banners as they filled dozens of streets in downtown.

They chanted "Mexico!" "USA!" and "Si se puede," an old Mexican-American civil rights shout that means "Yes, we can." Many protesters said lawmakers were unfairly targeting immigrants who provide a major labor pool for America's economy.

The rally was organized by unions, religious organizations and immigrant rights groups, with disc jockeys on Spanish-language radio stations calling on listeners to attend. Crowd estimates varied widely through the afternoon as protesters came and went and dozens of streets were closed down. Police Cmdr. Louis Gray Jr., incident commander for the Los Angeles rally, said aerial helicopter snapshots and other crowd estimation techniques placed the estimated number of demonstrators at more than 500,000.

"America is a nation of immigrants, and we're also a nation of laws," Bush said in his weekly radio address about the emotional immigration issue that has driven a wedge into his party. Bush sides with business leaders who want legislation to let some immigrants stay in the country and work for a set period of time.

Many protesters also took issue with the argument that amnesty for immigrants who entered illegally would be unfair to those who entered legally. "You always hear the argument about 'being unfair to the people waiting in line,'" said Perias Pillay, 44, who immigrated legally from Malaysia when he was 18. "But the reality is that most people don't qualify to wait in line. The government needs to make it easier to immigrate."

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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
The rally has drawn somewhere between 100,000 and 500,000-plus participants. The latter estimate contained in a pro-rally article filed this afternoon in the Los Angeles Times, which describes the participants thus: "The marchers included both longtime residents and the newly arrived, bound by a desire for a better life and a love for this country."

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81 posted on 03/26/2006 7:33:05 AM PST by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: Amerigomag
They're ILLEGALS! They don't have any rights, except maybe the right to remain silent (which they're not very good at), etc. or the "right" to a one way ticket home (hint: this ain't home).
82 posted on 03/26/2006 7:41:11 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: Regulator
the descendants of the vicious, rapacious Conquistadors

Actually Mexicans are more descendants of Indians than Spaniards. Most of them are either Mestizo or pure blood Indians.

83 posted on 03/26/2006 7:46:22 AM PST by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: MA2

TEXT OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESS TO THE NATION
SATURDAY, APRIL XX, 20XX

My Fellow Americans:

In the past seventy-two hours, a remarkable political event has occurred. In your Congress, members of both parties have joined forces to pass new and bold legislation that will ensure the integrity of our borders and regularize the process by which Americans are identified. This new legislation -- the National Security Act of 20XX -- takes effect at midnight tonight.

What effect will the new Act have on you? Outwardly, very little. If you are an American citizen, or a legal resident of the United States, your daily routine will be largely unchanged. If you are a employer, your hiring procedures will be affected to a small degree. Schools, colleges, universities, and other public institutions will feel the effect somewhat more, but the changes the Act will require will not be unduly onerous. However, if you are a person who is currently within the borders of the United States without benefit of citizenship, visa, or other permission, your life is about to become difficult indeed.

Why? Simply put, the government of the United States is about to resume its primary function: protecting the people of the several states from foreign invasion, an invasion that has been going on for many years. Until now, the leaders elected to the government of the United States have for various reasons, chosen to ignore this invasion, tolerate its effects, and justify their ignorance and dereliction of duty by mischaracterizing this invasion as mere "illegal immigration". No more. With the passage of the National Security Act, the officials elected by you to govern our country will resume the duty of maintaining the territorial integrity of the United States, and of undoing the damage created by the dereliction of previous administrations.

Our goal is threefold: first, to define and identify those who have the right to be within our borders; second, to apprehend and remove from our country those who have no legal right to be here; and third, to re-establish and defend the borders of the United States.

With these goals in mind, as President of the United States I have issued a series Exeuctive Orders directing the various agencies of the federal government to put the provisions of the National Security Act into effect. The complete text of each of these orders, along with that of the National Security Act, will appear in your local newspaper tomorrow moring. These documents are also available to you via the internet, and will be transmitted over radio and television. By familiarizing yourself with these documents, you will be prepared for the changes which we as a nation will be experiencing over the weeks and months to come.

First comes Identification. Monday, May XX is Identification Day, or ID Day. This is the day for citizens and legal residents of the United States to stand up and be counted. Within the next sixty days, your Census Department will be establishing Citzen Centers in every county seat in the United States. The purpose of these facilities is to establish an accurate and legal census of the legal residents of each county. This census will be the basis from which your new United States Citizen Identification Card will be issued. On ID Day, all citizens and legal residents of the United States will have the opportunity to establish their status by appearing at the Citzen Center in their home county and presenting proof of status to a Court established for that purpose by your state government. In most cases, this Court will consist of your local county judge and his staff. The process of establishing your status will be simple: you simply register with the Court, stand before the judge, swear or affirm to your status, and submit certified copies of your birth certificate, passport, naturalization papers, or other documents as evidence. On your way out, you will be issued a temporary card -- similar to your current Driving license -- containing your identification data and photograph. That is all. A few weeks later, upon confirmation of your documents, you will receive a permanent Identification Card in the mail. This card contains your personal data stored on a digital memory module. The data on the module is your property and will be recorded only on the card itself and, in paper form, at your countty courthouse. Under the Act, this dats cannot be accessed -- even by another agency of the federal, state, or local government -- without a federal court order. Its purpose is to identify you as a citizen or legal resident of the United States in cases where such identification is necessary -- for example, when you collect your Social Security benefits, military pension, or when you go to vote. This card will also serve as an adjunct to your current paper passport and will be used to identify you as a citzen or legal resident when you apply for employment within the United States.

I want to stress that your new ID Card is in no way connected with your personal finances, credit, or ability to buy or sell. It is intended to identify you as a citizen or legal resident of the United States, and can legally be used for no other purpose. Any entity found guilty of abusing your Citizen Identification data, or of requiring you to provide it to them for any illegitimate purpose, will be subject to prosecution by federal law enforcement authorities.

Next comes Enforcement Day, or E-Day. Six months after ID Day, your employer will be required to establish the employment status of each person on its payroll. Your new ID card is all you need on E-Day. Just show it to your employer; they will electronically verify it with your county courthouse, confirm your right to work in the United States, and return the card to you. From E-Day on, each employer in the United States will be legally required to verify your status when you take a new job, but, again, it will be a simple process.

The effect of this procedure will be simple: beginning on E-Day, it will be impossible for anyone other than a citizen or legal resident of the United States to hold a legitimate job in our country. Likewise, it will be impossible for those without the legal right to be here to collect government benefits, operate a motor vehicle, or vote in an election; verified Citizen ID will be required for each. Employers who are caught employing illegal aliens "off the books", falsiying or evading the verification process, or otherwise violating the provisions of the Act, will become subject to federal criminal prosecution, including seizure of assets. Those persons attempting to vote, collect federal benefits, or otherwise enjoy the benefits of legal residents and citizens will be arrested, confined, and deported as soon as possible.

Finally comes Border Day. As commander in chief of the United States armed forces, I have directed the Joint Chiefs of Staff to seal the borders of the United States, effective immediately. To this end, I have tonight issued an executive order establishing a national invasion emergency and with it defense areas along our nation's coasts and borders: the Atlantic Sea Frontier, extending from Maine to the Tidewater area of Virginia; the Southeastern Sea Frontier, extending from Tidewater to Pensacola, Florida, and including the United States Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico; the Gulf Coast Sea Frontier, from Pensacola to the tip of Texas near Brownsville; the Southwestern Frontier, comprising our borders with Mexico; the Western Sea Frontier, extending from the Mexican border south of San Diego north to the Canadian Border and including Alaska, Hawaii, and our Pacific territories and possessions; and the Northern Frontier, encompassing the U.S.-Canadian border, the Great Lakes, and the Saint Lawrence Seaway, thence eastward to Maine. Each of these military areas will extend from the border inland for one hundred kilometers, and will be technically under martial law for the duration of the emergency. Within these areas the normal legal and judicial processes will continue, however, at the discretion of the military command authority in each area, military forces will have authority to detain, interrogate, and confine any person suspected of violating the National Security Act. I have also instructed the Chuefs to create a military command strictly tasked with border defense. This is our country's new Continental Defense Command, or CONDEFCOM. Headquartered at Fort Sam Houston in San Antionio, Texas CONDEFCOM will consist of your state's Guard forces, regular Armed Forces personnel, and federal and state law enforcement personnel. These brave men and women will establish and maintain our borders secure from those who would invade our country.

To assist them in this task I have furthermore directed the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to immediately begin contruction of a physical Border Integrity Perimeter slong our land frontiers with Canada and Mexico. This facility will be a physical and electronic "fence" extending along the complete length of our borders, employing both time-tested and new techniques to keep intruders out. Our border crossings will be fortified and garrisoned with CONDEFCOM units to prevent unauthorized entry into our country. Our ports and coastlines will be patrolled by our Coast Guard, assisted by our state's own civilian naval auxiliary and by unmanned air and sea vehicles. And the airspace and orbital pathwaus above our nation will fall under increased scrutiny from your Air Force, Air National Guard, and a new generation of surveillance satellites.

All this done well, and within a year your government will have begun to do what it should have been doing all along: protecting the people of the United States from invasion from abroad.

My fellow citizens, I realize that these changes may seem abrupt, and even -- to some -- frightening. I want to assure you tonight that there is nothing to fear. Yes, there will be changes to come in all of our lives, some of which may seem drastic and even unsettling. This is because we are working to clean up a mess of many years in a few short months. Yes, there will be inefficiencies, mistakes, and omissions. No government is perfect, and ours is no exception. As your President, I ask of all you who find yourselves inconvenienced, frustrated, or exasperated by such imperfections to bear with your government in a spirit of patience and patriotism. Our goal is not to hurt anyone, deny anyone their God-given rights, or to intrude into areas of anyone's life where government has no business. Our goal is to protect and defend the Constitution and people of the United States, and no more. To that end, your representatives and I have taken these actions, and we pledge to you our faithful service.

Finally, to our neighbors on the American continent: we extend to you the hand of fraternity and soildarity now as always, and ask in return only that you respect our nation in like manner. We will do everything in our power to treat hose of your country who are found to be in violation of our laws with justice, compassion, and humanity. Nevertheless, our friends to the north and south should be aware that, while we mean them no ill will, the United States is a nation with borders, and that those borders will be defended.

To this, I pledge my very best efforts on your behalf as President, and I ask you, my fellow citizens, for your forbearance, support, and prayers in the difficult weeks and months ahead. Good night, and God bless America.

TEXT ENDS


84 posted on 03/26/2006 7:59:06 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Regulator
- The love that the Spaniard Inquisitors felt just before ripping out the tongues of the Jews or Protestants

There were Protestants in Spain in the 1400's?

In your haste to make an anti-Catholic comment you got your facts mixed up.

85 posted on 03/26/2006 8:03:48 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Amerigomag

"Hundreds of Thousands," the ICE should have been carting them off by the train full. (LOL so much for Bush's enforcement of the existing law)


86 posted on 03/26/2006 8:11:29 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: B-Chan
In your Congress, members of both parties have joined forces to pass new and bold legislation that will ensure the integrity of our borders and regularize the process by which Americans are identified.

Dubya must be hearing footsteps. It will be interesting to see how he guts this legislation, ignores it, or otherwise morphs it into something superfluous.

87 posted on 03/26/2006 8:32:14 AM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: panthermom
Good morning.
"Load em up and send em home. See ya, don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out!!!"

How about building the wall? You know, plugging the leak instead of just pumping the bilge.

If the flow isn't stopped they will just come back. Whats the next step if deporting more than a million people doesn't fix the problem? For that matter, just how do you round up and get rid of that many people without turning the nation into a full-on police state?

Build the wall, then we can deal with the problem without making things worse.

Michael Frazier
89 posted on 03/26/2006 9:04:26 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville

I am all for a wall, electric fence and land mines if necessary. You know, I have to laugh at all this national security nonsense when our borders are protected by chicken wire. We are losing our nation more and more everyday. All of the handwringing in Washington is just making it worse.


90 posted on 03/26/2006 9:18:24 AM PST by panthermom
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To: brazzaville

If we truly wanted to check the legal status of people we could, and it can be done nationwide. Bounce a check to the grocery store and every business in the country knows. Now if we have the technology for that why can't we come up with the technology to check legal status? It's the don't ask don't tell policy.


91 posted on 03/26/2006 9:27:37 AM PST by panthermom
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To: panthermom

The open border propaganda trolls have been coming out like crazy the last couple of days.


92 posted on 03/26/2006 9:43:43 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: MA2; All; admin

Hi Trollito. Did you just register today to educate us on racism???


93 posted on 03/26/2006 9:47:48 AM PST by antceecee (...some people would complain if you hung 'em with a new rope...)
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To: Borax Queen
Good morning.
"The open border propaganda trolls have been coming out like crazy the last couple of days."

Since you were responding to a post to me, I have to assume you were alluding to me when you made the "open border propaganda troll" remark.

I don't advocate open borders, illegal immigration or increasing the authority of TPTB to solve a problem they created.

If your comment wasn't about me, never mind. Have a nice day and let's get the wall built.

Michael Frazier
94 posted on 03/26/2006 10:00:25 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Travis McGee; mukraker; SUSSA; ARealMothersSonForever; georgia2006; B4Ranch; ARCADIA; ...
Travis, in your pic with the felons behind the barrier -#23 -I wonder how many illegals/felons -are in our Emergency Rooms at any one time?

I did a google on hospitals and apparently there are approx. 12,500 hospitals in the United States (non-charity)). Now, what I'm getting at is the fact that about two years ago I had to go to a local, medium sized private hospital via ambulance - and I'll be frank here, it was because I suddenly went into atril fib.

So, the ambulance attendants brought me in on a stretcher to the ER lobby area and I heard the receptionist ask the guys what my prognosis was and after hearing that, she said to roll the stretcher over by the wall and they'd get me into the first available room.

My wife later told me that there were about 15 people in front of me (all sitting in chairs and all looked like foreigners -except one elderly woman who appeared Caucasian). The rest, the fourteen others appeared to be from Mexico or Latin America. Over the next 45 minutes or so, my wife also later told me -that she heard most all of these folks mumbling some kind of Mexican/Spanish).

My point here is two fold. We'll never know now, but how many of those fourteen patients had medical insurance? And secondly, after thinking about it, how many hospitals in the United States -at any one time of the late afternoon- are overcrowded with illegals/non-insureds?

Let's do an unscientific poll and take that figure above of 14 patients waiting who are most likely illegals and not insured and multiply this number times the number of hospitals I found on google.

(for those in rio linda:
12,500 U S hospitals x 14 patients = 175,000

[now not to appear upset here - but I unpolitely inquire - while I throw down my Toprol-XL and cumodin - how many fking illegals will be chewin' on corncobs and tacos - while crowding the emergency room -the next time I'm patiently waiting my turn to die?)

So, in this unscientific poll of mine, all readers reviewing this along with you Travis, can count on an average wait of 45 minutes or more at your own choice private hospital, with your own paid for insurance -to just get into an ER room for a Doctor to come see you. (and I'll bet that in the charity hospitals, this 45 minutes -can extent to a 4 or 5 hours).

Now, in conclusion, let's consider a lurker here has the unfortunate experience of having to take their wife or their 8 year old son or daughter to their choice private hospital with their own insurance - and find assorted illegals in the ER lobby - all mumbling whatever - while your wife or child possibly............goes into a coma.

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And of course, I pay my $340 a month for my persoanl hospitalization insurance, but.........

Get 'em out! Finish the Fence!

95 posted on 03/26/2006 10:08:19 AM PST by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Amerigomag



Get 'em Out - Finish the Fence...


96 posted on 03/26/2006 10:09:18 AM PST by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: brazzaville; panthermom

No, no, no, not even!! I'm so sorry! I was talking about that "MA2" person b/c panthermom said something about him/her joking. I shouldn't have assumed it'd be obvious about whom I was speaking. In the last 12 hours, I've seen four of those pop up and get zotted, posting blatant propaganda about how great the protestors are and how evil we are.


97 posted on 03/26/2006 10:10:51 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: I got the rope
"That pic really pisses me off."

(I repeat) - -you and others here, posters and lurkers alike - what happens when you, your wife or one of your children has to go to an emergency room - and you -with your Paid hospitalization in hand- have to wait 45 minutes (or hours) - while you, your wife or one of your children -
- - suddenly goes into a Coma?????

98 posted on 03/26/2006 10:24:35 AM PST by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: panthermom
Good morning.

I don't believe it is a problem of identifying the illegals as much as it's a problem of figuring out what to do with them. If we don't stop the invasion, deportation will continue to be nothing more than an expensive revolving door.

I could be wrong, but I believe that when it comes to immigration, the "don't ask don't tell" policy is more the work of people like the Mecha/La Raza mayor of LA and the socialists who make up so much of local government.

The Feds give more of an impression of befuddlement than anything else.

Cutting the flow has to be the first step. Mines and cattle cars might come later, but I hope not.

Michael Frazier
99 posted on 03/26/2006 10:27:30 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Ladycalif

Kiss my grits! (to those in the graphic)

My aunt and uncle just called to tell me they were considering moving into an active adult community cost for one bedroom $150,000 to $500,000, they decided to call the manager of the community and tell them they WERE considering moving into their community until they drove around and saw tons of mexican illegals working on the property now they decided they would not move there because of the cheap illegal labor, what ever happened to good old American construction workers?

How funny, good for them!


100 posted on 03/26/2006 10:33:44 AM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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