Posted on 03/25/2006 4:51:43 PM PST by FairOpinion
Orange County may be the state's most Republican urban county, but it's Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides who has been raking in the cash there.
A Register analysis of campaign contributions from local donors to Angelides, who is state treasurer, and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger since January 2005 show Angelides ahead by 25 percent –just over $140,000 – as of March 17, according to reports filed Wednesday.
There are several reasons why Angelides has done so well in Orange County, say both his supporters and detractors.
For one, he is a former Democratic Party chairman and thus able to tap into a rich network of party contributors who know him. He also has longstanding ties to the business community.
His success in Orange County "demonstrates the depth and breadth of support the Phil Angelides campaign has generated over the past year," said Angelides campaign spokesman Brian Brokaw. "He made a concerted effort across the state to build the sort of coalition it will take to win the primary in June and in November."
And Schwarzenegger is no Bill Simon. Simon, the Republican candidate for governor in 2002, trailed incumbent Gray Davis in Orange County fundraising in the 2002 race by a 1-to-4 margin at this point in the race.
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Do FReepers support Angelides or Arnold?
Nope.
Angelides proposes tax changes (INCREASES) to raise teacher pay
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1602855/posts
Sierra Club Endorses Phil Angelides for Governor
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1602850/posts
AND a nice summary about Angelides:
http://www.calcoast.org/news/cpr0060122.html
Angelides calls himself a champion of "progressive values." As state treasurer, he has pushed public pension funds to dump tobacco stocks, invest in urban renewal projects and pressure corporations into cleaning up the environment. A close ally of labor, he also supports abortion rights, gay marriage, gun control and driver's licenses for illegal immigrants.
If he makes it into a general-election race, his call for increasing taxes could pose problems; Schwarzenegger has been steadfast in opposing higher taxes.
I don't support either.
Fortunately, the Austrian won't be the only candidate on the Republican, gubernatorial, primary ballot in June. Conservatives do have a choice.
I can only hope that the poor showing in the June primary will bring the CRP back to it's senses and give them time to formulate a new and workable plan for 2010. Their current efforts are setting the party back at least one election cycle.
I also hope that the electorate does not throw the baby out with the bath water. Down ticket candidates are the lifeblood of the party and to see them wiped out by the public embarrassment at the top of the ticket would be a pity.
that isnt a realistic answer
hope?
if all you have is hope, you have nothing
"I met Angeliedes in the early 90's when he was starting his "career". He is a dangerous person. His election combined with a democarat legislature, a socialist mayor in SF and a racist mayor in LA would hasten the demise of the state (which isn't far off, anyway)."
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I agree with you completely. Sharing your personal experience with him confirms what I strongly suspected. You assessment of the consequences is right on.
Neither.
As fogger said yesterday: "You want my vote, give me an elephant."
I am a major Conservative but I support the person who has the best chance of beating the Liberal, Angelides.
Our current Gov. Arnold.
The two Republican counties, San Diego and Orange have been narrowed with more democrats adding to the rolls.
LA, Frisco & Bay area, Santa Barbara, and other counties
are in the Liberal majority.
The math is simple, this is the reality.
Folks need to get real and keep the Liberal Angelides from being the next gov.
Why? We might have more debt? Have that. Raise taxes, have that in fhe form of bonds already. More enviro crap, have that. More Dem judges? have that. Six of one, half dozen of the other. Lose either way.
Arnold is not a Republican!
Voting for any other Republican on the Primary is a risk-free way to vote against Schwarzenegger. It won't help elect Angelides, which is what some posters claim not voting for Schwarzenegger will do. Also, it could reduce Schwarzenegger's percentage of the GOP vote in the primary from the expected 99.9%. However, Schwarzenegger still has a lock on the nomination.
The choices on the Republican primary (and their professions and votes in the 2003 Recall) are:
Robert C. Newman II, Psychologist/Farmer, 987,
Arnold Schwarzenegger, incumbent, 4,206,284,
Jeffrey R. Burns, ?, N/A, and
William S. Chambers, Railroad Switchman/Brakeman, 610.
(The list order is according to the Sec. of State's candidate filing status list.) Newman wants to be the Christian candidate; although he has a website, it looks like it hasn't been updated since the Recall election. The other two don't even have webpages, at least not that I found through a basic internet search of their names.
It's not worth voting Libertarian or AIP in the June Primary, because their candidates, Art Olivier and Edward C. Noonan, respectively, are unchallenged. Both of these candidates advertise their desire to cut the budget and reduce the wasteful cost of the CA government. On the surface, they look better than the Republican choices.
I'm confused. I understand the logic of defeating a liberal in the mind of a conservative. I understand the logic of defeating a Democrat in the mind of a partisan Republican.
I don't understand the advantage in supporting a liberal by either a conservative or a Republican. Who gains? Certainly not the conservative. Neither does the CRP or the RNC.
From my perspective it matters not whether a liberal governor is Democrat or Republican. He's still a liberal. What matters is that conservatism is advanced and electing a liberal does not advance conservatism.
My advice is that conservatives run, as fast as they can, away from liberals. Either tolerating them or supporting them in a moment of desperate pragmatism, will come to no good.
Join us. Throw the clothespin in the hamper, feel good about yourself and sleep soundly at night.
There is another way: register with no party affiliation, request a Democrat primary ballot, and vote in the Dem primary for someone (Westly, or any other D) other than Angelides.
Your vote carries more weight in the primary, because in the General election, all the Democrat voters will vote for the D winner whereas in the primary some Democrats will vote for other D candidates.
The all or nothing folks gave us Carter and Clinton.
Your skewed thinking will give us Angelides and I hope you can feel good about yourself after that.
I posted some stuff on all three guys(R) on a prior thread, starting with this post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1601863/posts?page=31#31
Whether a symbolic, write-in, protest vote (Ronald Reagan) or one for a minor candidate, the gang should not be supported.
California simply isn't going to improve if Schwarzenegger is reelected and the damage his stewardship will do to the CRP will assure that a successions of Utopian liberals will follow. A second, Schwarzenegger term will poison the well for a conservative successor.
It troubles me greatly that the CRP is supporting the Austrian. They could simply have said NO to Wilson when he entered the arena with his glitzy spokesman. Davis may well have survived, but the chances of electing a conservative in 2006 would have skyrocketed after the initiatives to repeal Davis' 11th hour efforts to pander were approved overwhelmingly.
It troubles me more that they are supporting his policies (if nothing else, through suppression of opposition). Socialistic spending; irresponsible borrowing; leftist judges; leftist appointees; enviro-wacko global warming, solar roofs, landgrabs; etc.
They could simply have said NO to Wilson when he entered the arena with his glitzy spokesman. Davis may well have survived, but the chances of electing a conservative in 2006 would have skyrocketed after the initiatives to repeal Davis' 11th hour efforts to pander were approved overwhelmingly.
Had Davis survived, at least our party and legislature would have been united in opposing big spending and borrowing. Instead, we have Davis-on-Steroids being shoved down voters' throats under the Unity(R) label and the platform almost completely abandoned.
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