Posted on 03/25/2006 12:38:33 PM PST by rcocean
Are the neocons losing it?
William Kristol of the Weekly Standard now demands the firing of Donald Rumsfeld. William F. Buckley, whose National Review branded the anti-war right "unpatriotic conservatives" who "hate" America, now calls upon Bush for an "acknowledgement of defeat."
But it is a March 20 essay in the Wall Street Journal that suggests the neocons may be coming unhinged. Written by Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes.. calls on Bush to fire press secretary Scott McClellan, chief of staff Andy Card, political adviser Karl Rove, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Treasury Secretary John Snow – and Vice President Richard Cheney.
"The trickiest issue is how to handle Karl Rove," says Barnes.
That Bush is in trouble is undeniable. But his people are not Bush's problem. His policies are. It is these policies, not his advisers, that have given us huge deficits, 12 million illegal aliens, a trade deficit running at $800 billion a year and a no-win war that is bleeding our country.
If Bush should follow Barnes' advice and throw his most loyal people to the wolves as a PR stunt, he will have earned their lasting contempt, and that of the country. For all will know he was scapegoating them for his own failures – failures that come of having listened to the neocons who are even now slipping out of camp, rehearsing alibis and blaming Bush for not heeding their brilliant advi
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I guess we all get what we deserve.
Including Bush
I don't hate Bush, I hate most of his policies.
It's gotten to the point where it's safe to conclude that almost any sentence containing the phrase "the neocons" is false and almost anyone who uses that phrase is an idiot.
Bingo.
I agree with Fred Barnes on Press Secretary Scott McClellan though I don't think Rove should go. The White House staff have been guilty of failing in key ways to defend not just our President but the War in Iraq and our soldiers. They underestimated the effect of the relentless never ending attacks from the leftist media. I think it is unfortunate that some on the right have failed to separate their disgust concerning the immigration policy from the what is a successful but not easy situation in Iraq and an economy that is growing at an outstanding rate.
I think that the President by authorizing the release of documents seized in Iraq is a turning point. Bob Kerry is admitting that there clearly was a relationship between Saddam and AlQaeda. This is a substantial break with the Democrat by-line and I think we are going to see a whole lot more of this as things come to the surface. I think the White House needs to go even further. What is at stake is the honor of our soldiers and our country and by allowing gutless terrorist sympathetic liberals to continue unadressed. They are not our friends and countrymen and pretending otherwise is what has gotten the President to the place he is now.
Including Bush
Yeah, re-election and by an undeniable (except to the moonbats) majority.
We are not dealing with Iran right now.
What are we doing to deal with Iran now?
The problem with ideologues is they have one or two ideas they apply to everything. Then when they are proved wrong they just apply the same ideas to everything else.
If Barnes really has taken the positions Buchanan describes then he has the same affliction. When you are President you are President of the United States not some narrow, exclusionary group.
The country is evenly divided on the Iraq War and many other issues. What is described as a Republican collapse is a function of wishful poll taking. The war by any measure is an outstanding success--we have conquered and are in the process of changing to a more democratic regime a nation of 27 million with only minimal losses. To be sure every loss is a 100% loss for the soldier and his family, but tactically the war was well lead, successful and permitted the long term goal of a democratic regime.
The President is doing a great job. No war ever goes to plan, the casualties are declining and sooner or later the Iraqis will cease their impasse and move on to a more or less unified government.
The naysayers used to say tch, tch but now they say cluck, cluck --that is what chickens do when they are huddled in the hen house.
ROFLMAO!
Well done!
The Fred Barnes article was pure folly, Pat Buchanan is right about that. I don't know what got into Buckley, he is flat wrong about Iraq. Perle, Ledeen, Sullivan, Fukuyama -- who cares what they think? But what Buchanan does not understand, or does not admit, is that Iraq is not source for discontent in some who might otherwise be supporters of President Bush.
The cut-and-run crowd hates George W. Bush, and they always will. If Iraq's government turned their country into a shining peaceful oasis in the desert next week, hate-America-firsters who screamed "high price of American empire" would still criticize this President. The current political turmoil for the President is overblown (just wait 'til November); and to whatever extent the political problems are real, they have very little to do with Iraq.
Dubai Ports hurt President Bush. That was an unfair political snafu. Katrina's storm damage in political terms for President Bush is lasting; it has not been (and may never be) repaired. And the President has not, until recently, focused his immigration policy first on securing the border and enforcing existing laws. I'm starting to see that change, thankfully.
Bottom line: President Bush is doing the right thing by ignoring so-called intellectuals, be they neo-cons or paleo-cons. The strategy he laid out in the 2004 campaign and the President's inaugural address is the same as he announced shortly after 9/11/01. This is a long war, and this is no time to declare defeat.
--The problem with ideologues is they have one or two ideas they apply to everything. Then when they are proved wrong they just apply the same ideas to everything else.
Pat was a great writer. Too bad he fell in with the loonies.
I voted for him twice and will vote for any warm body but Hillary if she runs,
but policies and some personel need to change.
I encourage everyone to rent (Netflix.com has it) or purchase "In the Face of Evil: Reagan's War in Word and Deed."
http://www.inthefaceofevil.com/
Introductory trailer here:
http://vbuttons.com/vbutton.php?clip_id=5588
Pat Buchanan tends to forget or never fully understood the never ending struggle against evil.
"The Beast Never Dies!"
--I voted for him twice and will vote for any warm body but Hillary if she runs,
but policies and some personel need to change.
You gotta admit he's better than his daddy I hope?
Notice how Pat mingles Buckley the individual with the opinion of someone at his magazine--subtly trying to make it seem as if there is a contradiction there when none exists.
Pat is the Right's Noam Chomsky--a loudmouth who says what the wackos of the left/right think and wraps it up in clever wording that disguises his getting it wrong, and is popular because he appeals to the bigots who think he is an intellectual and "proves" their wrongheaded beliefs.
Go light a candle for Father Coughlin, Pat.
He is an anti-American socialist and I have no use for socialism, or those who would put the the interest of world markets ahead of the citizens and the nation that they are supposed to represent.
Hope you aren't armed or familiar with bomb-making.
Uh?
Very telling.
Fred Barnes is a Conservative Christian. From what I read about his mother after she passed away recently he has likely been one since the cradle.
But he doesn't hate Jews. Probably has many Jewish friends and is a strong supporter of Israel. And is a colleague of that arch villain and Jewish "Neo Con" Bill Kristol- (the bad guy who helped us get Alito instead of Meirs).
All which to the wanabee American Fuhrer makes Fred Barnes a NeoCon.
There isn't a Jew (or a "neo Con" however Pat defines one) anywhere near Bush today making policy.
Yet still Buchanan finds his bogeymen. Both in the policy makers and in their critics. Surprisingly, they're the same.
Pat is no conservative and no republican.
He's an opportunistic anti-semite.
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