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Are the neocons losing it? Pat Buchanan
WND ^ | 3-24-2006 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 03/25/2006 12:38:33 PM PST by rcocean

Are the neocons losing it?

William Kristol of the Weekly Standard now demands the firing of Donald Rumsfeld. William F. Buckley, whose National Review branded the anti-war right "unpatriotic conservatives" who "hate" America, now calls upon Bush for an "acknowledgement of defeat."

But it is a March 20 essay in the Wall Street Journal that suggests the neocons may be coming unhinged. Written by Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes.. calls on Bush to fire press secretary Scott McClellan, chief of staff Andy Card, political adviser Karl Rove, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Treasury Secretary John Snow – and Vice President Richard Cheney.

"The trickiest issue is how to handle Karl Rove," says Barnes.

That Bush is in trouble is undeniable. But his people are not Bush's problem. His policies are. It is these policies, not his advisers, that have given us huge deficits, 12 million illegal aliens, a trade deficit running at $800 billion a year and a no-win war that is bleeding our country.

If Bush should follow Barnes' advice and throw his most loyal people to the wolves as a PR stunt, he will have earned their lasting contempt, and that of the country. For all will know he was scapegoating them for his own failures – failures that come of having listened to the neocons who are even now slipping out of camp, rehearsing alibis and blaming Bush for not heeding their brilliant advi

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To: Angus MacGregor

Your post certainly is interesting.

I suggest any third party, read Pat's column, and then read "Angus MacGregor"'s response, and decide for themselves if it is an accurate description.


181 posted on 03/26/2006 8:12:19 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: rcocean; Admin Moderator
"See my last comment and *uck off"

Nice. BTW, You're the one bringing up "jews" and "anti-semitism" all the time .

I wish you'd write about the points Pat made in the column. However, being Uncle Leo, you constantly go off-topic into your favorite subjects. You do this on every Pat Buchanan thread.

You certainly like to smear and insult your fellow FReepers. Given all the so-called "anti-semites" you are constantly uncovering, I'm amazed you're still here. As I said before, I think you're intelligent man, but simply incapable of rational thought on certain subjects .

Do you actually read thsese threads or just run off at the keyboard?

1-I’ve not that much interest in the article. I responded to your rather ignorant comment in post 156

An article from 1991 - gee, only 15 years ago. At least you're not talking about WW II.

Wonder why you didn't post an article from 2000 or 1996?

NR was full of comments on Pats presidential campaigns.

As I've posted before, if Pat Buchanan was *really* antisemitic, he wouldn't have Jewish Friends, be employed by Jewish-American TV execs and Jewish-American Newspaper Editors, or debated on TV by Jewish-American Pundits.

which came completely out of the blue. That was my first comment on the thread. Your post is a fraud.

2-Read the thread moron, I did in fact comment on the article to another poster. Though not particularly interesting, it has no basis in fact.

3-I haven’t smeared you or anyone else, you’re a liar.

You certainly like to smear and insult your fellow FReepers. Given all the so-called "anti-semites" you are constantly uncovering, I'm amazed you're still here. As I said before, I think you're intelligent man, but simply incapable of rational thought on certain subjects

I’ve described your characterization of me as a Nazi and “tribe member accurately. You’re a troll. Don’t waste your time time posting to me.

………………….

AM, apologies for the language, but I think I’m entitled to respond to these attacks.

You’ll note like the first time 94. 248 I conversed with this jerk, this stupidity didn’t start because of a comment of mine directed to him , rather out of context, inaccurate attacks on comments I made to other posters. Similar to this thread, other than here I’d made no comments at all, other than pinging the thread to my list at another posters request. Bad enough in some folks eyes.

If as he suggests, I’m incapable of rational thought and spend my time smearing and insulting my fellow Freepers, push the button, I don’t belong here.

182 posted on 03/27/2006 4:59:24 AM PST by SJackson ([Iraq] Reconstruction isn’t news is it? Chris Matthews)
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To: rcocean

Some say the Rats are the first to abandon a sinking ship.

And, you will get the Bushbots saying that those who are leaving the boat are Rats. But what they fail to understand is that when the Captain refuses to change course or even bail water, you don't really have an obligation to go down with him.


183 posted on 03/27/2006 5:02:40 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (God is such a good idea that if He didn't exist we would have to invent Him)
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To: rcocean

184 posted on 03/27/2006 5:12:00 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (There's always a reason to choose life.)
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To: SJackson
This will be my last post to you on this thread.

I suggest anyone (whose interested) go read the thread, they will discover you are constantly insulting and smearing your fellow FReepers (i.e. "Liar,Moron,*uck off, Jewobbsesive,Nazi",troll, etc).

Furthermore, your constant linking back to my comments of November 2005 (!),confirms my opinion that your are irrational on certain subjects.

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185 posted on 03/27/2006 6:33:29 AM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Let me guess...his "dementia" set in exactly at the time he started to criticize the Iraq war.


186 posted on 03/27/2006 7:25:22 AM PST by joey9004
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To: Angus MacGregor

No, I'm suggesting that some people believe that Israel's interests and America's are always the same. That's just absurd.


187 posted on 03/27/2006 7:29:18 AM PST by joey9004
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To: joey9004

No, actually he has been suffering since the late 90's.

LLS


188 posted on 03/27/2006 7:34:43 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
do not have an on-line subscription to the archives of that publication, but I did find a link to a message by someone who lifted direct quotes from the article.

If you’re interested, you’ll find the Buckley articles here.

National Review > Dec 30, 1991

Follow Up-March 16, 1992

Of possible interest Judaism, Spring, 1996

189 posted on 03/27/2006 1:23:30 PM PST by SJackson ([Iraq] Reconstruction isn’t news is it? Chris Matthews)
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To: advance_copy
If Iraq's government turned their country into a shining peaceful oasis in the desert next week, hate-America-firsters who screamed "high price of American empire" would still criticize this President

"If"...its the biggest word in the English language...Iraq's government (and the American government) will never be able to "turn Iraq into a shining peaceful oasis"...because governments are incapable of such things...if they were, I imagine all of us conservatives would enthusiastically support efforts by our own government to build, shining, prosperous, safe, well-functioning societies here in our own cities...but of course, that is a fantasy...as is the notion that we will "turn Iraq into a stable and safe democracy"

190 posted on 03/27/2006 3:03:33 PM PST by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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