Saddam Regime Document Dated 2001 Shows Chemical Platoon Still Exists And Active (Translation)

Pentagon/FMSO website about Iraqi Pre-War Document ^ | March 25 2006 | jveritas

[jveritas]

Document CMPC-2004-000404 dated 2001 indicates that Saddam Regime still has an Active Chemical Platoon in Al Qadisia Air base. In fact the first page of the document lists the results “open tournament” i.e. “open training tournament” for the members of the Chemical Platoon. Page 8 and Page 9 show tables that list the status of “Specialized Vehicles” used by the Chemical Platoon. On the top of Page 9 the year 2001 is shown and this prooves that this document was written in 2001. Also page 8 and page 9 show the name and signature of the same guy who is the Commander of the Chemical Platoon at Al Qadisia Air Base, his name is Captain is Mohamad Taha Hassan. The remaining pages show the name of soldiers and their vacation time.

This document is a clear indication that Saddam never stopped his WMD program at least up to the year 2001 as the document show because there was still and active Chemical Platoon in Al Qadisia Air base.

Partial Translation from Page 8 that list a table of the Specialized Vehicles of the Chemical Platoon and its status

The Status of the Specialized Vehicles for the Chemical Platoon the command of Al Qadisia air base

1. The type of Vehicle: Surface vehicle, The Working Status: Working.

5. The type of vehicle: Shower vehicle, The Working Status: Working.

End of Partial Translation

The Shower Vehicle is of course used to clean the member of the Chemical Platoon from any Chemical Residuals.

[MaineVoter2002]

Thanks! Keeps us updated!

This needs to be posted in Google and Usenet for the libs to swollow!

http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalNewsGroups-PC.html

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Striking the two chosen targets during this period by using two thirds of available special equipment (Ricin Gas)

I don't think I was aware of their use of Ricin....

And you say this document is a 2001 document....?close to a smoking gun...if it is....

[SittinYonder]

I realize people desperately want to believe otherwise but reality has to be faced on this one. No particularly interesting smoking gun here.

None of these single documents has been a "particularly interesting smoking gun here." But thanks to jveritas and the Ray Robison blog, who together are translating these documents before the MSM, we're putting pieces of a puzzle together.

Your point that this could be a defensive Chemical Platoon is valid and probably not a point everyone would have immediately picked up on.

But let's not insult the people who are doing the work (translating the documents) that most of us can't do by whining because they haven't given us a "smoking gun."

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Let's keep our translator busy doing the job that only he can do,....the translation....it's a BIG JOB!

[jveritas]

Document Dated February/3/2003: Chemical Gears for The Chemical Group (Translation)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1603039/posts

I think it is much more than a defensive Chemical Platoon.

[justa-hairyape]

The excerpt I posted was from the Iran/Iraq war. Just shows their capabilities, methods and general experience with Biological and Chemical WMD at that time. The document that started this thread was made in 2001. I posted the Iran/Iraq info for informational purposes to aid this discussion.

[WhiteGuy]

Those guys who wrote these documents sure didn't miss a thing did they?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

If you frequent that site, why not post a link back to the threads here on FreeRepublic.....would be more efficient than asking jveritas to do it....if that is what you meant!

[Shelayne]

Thanks again for your hard work!

Eyespysomething, may I please be added to your PING list?

The picture on the puzzle is slowly emerging.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I agree, see my comments on the other thread.....

[drhogan]

i looked on the army web site and it wasn't clear to me exactly how this document was obtained.
if the freeper doing the translation doesn't want to answer, or doesn't have time to answer, that's not a problem with me.
do you know how and from whom the army obtained the document?
some people seem to assume that the document constitutes proof that the iraqis had chemical weapons in 2001, but it is not clear to me that it does.
before claiming that it constitutes proof, questions about the document itself would need to be answered.

[justa-hairyape]

before claiming that it constitutes proof, questions about the document itself would need to be answered.

We don't need proof, just enough evidence to justify an inquiry. In this case, the inquiry was already carried out by the US military.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Are you aware of the documents on the Prewardocs keyword list.....?

Go here:

Prewardocs list

This one is a good place to start:

US puts Iraqi documents on the Web ~ MSM acknowledges ...Goal is to speed up translation of files

[maine-iac7]

"Iraqi humanitarian aid platoon".

LOL

I think you're right - IF he thought there were ever a snow ball's chance in h*ll that we would ever have access to his internal papers.

That's what a bloated ego will getcha...(I hope that television is still going outside Saddam's cell - I feel good just thinking of him watching these docs being translated and knowing just what horrific things he did and was planning on that just might be the next document that sees the light of day. His mama shoulda taught him the old saw: "What goes 'round, comes 'round.")

[drhogan]

"This document is a clear indication that Saddam never stopped his WMD program at least up to the year 2001 as the document show because there was still and active Chemical Platoon in Al Qadisia Air base. "

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this is a quotation from the original post. there are a number of issues here, if we are talking about clear indication of wmd.
in any science, when a claim is made about evidence, it is considered to be reasonable to ask questions about the evidence.
if you don't establish the validity of the evidence, anybody can claim anything. then it just becomes political, with two groups arguing, but with no way to resolve the question.

[drhogan]

thank you.

[crowman]

And just who would Saddam be protecting against in a chemical war....He had them, he used them...

[justa-hairyape]

You cannot use documents to prove someone disarmed and destroyed their WMD.
You cannot use documents to prove someone possessed or utilized their WMD.
You CAN use documents to prove someone was telling lies about either disarming, destroying, possessing or utilizing.
The validity of these documents will need to be cross checked and verified. What we do here is discovery and conjecture. We don't have a staff.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I think you are running way ahead of the effort,....I think there are 48,000 boxs of documents to be translated....making sense of each and every document will come later,....

[1035rep]

I think it is much more than a defensive Chemical Platoon.

I agree completely, especially since we know for a FACT that he had chemical weapons and used them.

Keep up the great work!