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Thousands line Phoenix street in protest march (immigration bill)
WIS TV ^ | 3/24/06 | Chantelle Janelle

Posted on 03/24/2006 3:25:57 PM PST by Libloather

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To: Tammy8; clawrence3

Hehe. I was having fun, too, but I guess CL3 wasn't. Was it something I said...?....?


141 posted on 03/24/2006 8:19:05 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Walk softly, carry a big stick... and don't forget to connect the dots ...)
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To: Libloather

SOURCE: http://www.azcentral.com/blogs/index.php?blog=50&title=myth_s_perpetuated_about_illegal_aliens&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Republican Russell Pearce represents District 18 in the Arizona House.

Myths perpetuated about illegal aliens
10/17/2005 12:19:02
Rocky Mountain Poll by Earl De Berg is so bad it should embarrass him. He is just an operative for the Radical Left and continues to prove it just like the Arizona Republic. We continue to ignore the damage to American workers, the billions in cost, the crime, the anti America attitudes that come with an invasion where most do not intend to assimilate.

We have a massive failure of government, like Hurricane Katrina, the failure is at all levels, federal, state and local.

Enforcement, what a novel idea. We need to remove from office those who fail to keep their Oath of Office and uphold the Constitution and the laws of this land.

We the Citizens of Arizona demand immediate action on the following steps to halt the terrible social and economic impact of illegal immigration:

1) Secure our Borders: Use new proven technology, troops, fence and additional Border patrol. Use Homeland Security dollars to help.

2) Declare a REAL State of Emergency in the State of Arizona, and call out the National Guard and send DPS to the border, NOW.

3) Issue an Emergency Executive Order reversing all written and de facto Sanctuary policies throughout the state, NOW.

4) Issue an Emergency Executive Order designating sports arenas and other facilities as overflow holding areas for illegal aliens awaiting hearings and deportations (ending dangerous catch-and-release policies), build a tent city if necessary, NOW.

5) Establish and impose financial and other personnel sanctions against State agencies and employees who conduct State business in languages other than Arizona Constitutionally designated Official English, NOW.

6) Deny or revoke state licenses, grants to any employer who knowingly hires illegal aliens, NOW.

We ask that you uphold your Oath of Office and take these steps without delay.

The failures of the current policies are so evident and oft-repeated that it is time we demand action, we demand enforcement, we demand our elected officials keep their Oath’s of Office.

The cost is in BILLIONS of dollars (nationally):
*$70 billion in federal public benefits.
*$200 billion annually I lost American wages.
*1/3 of our federal prisoners are illegals (cost $1.6 billion).
*$1.6 billion in displaced American workers.
*$80 billion in the war on drugs.
*$8000 per student plus 1200 additional for English Learners in K-12 (times 1.5 million).
*$27 billion to provide forms, ballots, interpreters and brochures for languages other than English.
*$350 billion in unpaid taxes due to the underground workforce.
*$2 TO 3 billion in "Earned Income Tax Credits"
*$40.2 billion in business deductions for wage and benefits for illegals

Today, conditions are probably as bad or worse than they ever have been on the border. What we find is a mass migration of historic proportions: individuals running through backyards, breaking down fences, slaughtering cattle, cutting their dogs' throats if they bark, and terrifying people. Men and women who live on the border walk around armed. Women accompany their children to the bus stop with a gun in their purse in the heaviest cross-corridors.

We find that people are afraid to go out at night. Husbands and wives can't go out together unless somebody is home because someone may break-in and tear the place up. Water tanks are emptied. Stock gets killed. Fences are destroyed. It's a very, very negative situation for people in the rural countryside.

5 Myths of illegal immigration:

· Myth #1: Illegal aliens take jobs Americans won’t do.

You pay an American a decent wage and they will do the job. 18 million Americans in unemployment lines, over 60% of adult black males are out of work (between ages of 18 & 24), and a bloated welfare system.

· Myth #2: Illegal aliens contribute more to the economy and tax base than they take.

Barrons report $311-350 in unpaid taxes due to the underground workforce. A great majority of illegals make $6 to $8 per hour, and qualify for the “earned income tax credit (welfare)”. Public education cost from $7000 to $, 10,000 per child, multiply that times 2 to 4 children. Add free and reduced breakfast and lunch, free medical, food stamps, housing subsidies. Harvard Univ. put the cost of public benefits at over $70 billion annually.

· Myth #3: Without illegal alien farm labor, a head of lettuce would cost you $3.

It already cost you over $3.00. You make a down payment at the grocery store. Government finances the other $2. Healthcare, education, food stamps, subsidized housing, criminal justice cost, etc. Farmers and Corporate America get cheap labor while you and I pay billions in social and economic cost.

· Myth #4: Most illegal aliens come here only to seek work and are law-abiding people.

Los Angeles, as of Jan. 2004, 95% of all outstanding warrants for homicide (about 1500) target illegal aliens. 66% of all fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens. Largest and most violent gangs are made up of illegal aliens, the MS-13 gang (30,000 strong, in over 33 major cities) most violent and ruthless gang ever known. The 18th street gang in L.A. is 20,000 strong made up of illegal aliens. Some estimates are as high as 80% of violent crime involving illegal aliens.

· Myth #5: It is the Federal Government’s responsibility to enforce all immigration laws.

1996 Immigration Control Act made it clear local law enforcement could enforce immigration law.

Muehler v Mena: a 9-0 Landmark Supreme Court Decision (April 1st), Stated the officers didn’t need to have reasonable suspicion. The Court held that asking questions about immigration status was ok.

Any decision by law enforcement not to enforce immigration laws is a political decision by politicians and local police chiefs, not a lack of authority.

A recent Memo by the U.S. Justice Dept. makes it clear local law enforcement can enforce immigration laws.

Every Arizonan who watches local television news knows aliens likely kill more people per year than the 1,100-plus who perished in Katrina’s waters.
As slow as the response was to Katrina disaster, they did respond. Yet we observe the disaster on our border and get little response from Washington.
Freedom and security are neither cheap nor easy. They are, quite simply, needed to ensure this country remains free and prospers. The alternative is dyer.

It seems the debate is heating up in Washington. Lawmakers and leading immigration reform advocates at both the federal and state level have put forward numerous proposals to make our borders more secure, reduce crime in our cities and reduce the amount of taxpayer money spent on services to illegal aliens.

With inertia setting in at the federal level, it is time for individual states to act also. The states must partner with the feds on this issue.

So next legislative session, legislative Republicans will be busy pursuing a common-sense strategy to cut down on the number of illegal aliens allowed to roam our neighborhoods and terrorize out citizens.

New technology married with old-fashioned techniques can go a long way securing our borders.

The comprehensive strategy will include:

n A proposal to install proven sophisticated radar system coupled with a far-ranging camera along the border that is capable of detecting people and vehicles traveling through the expansive desert.

n A voter initiative to build a wall along portions of the border to ensure no large drug and human smuggling operations penetrate our porous border.

n Another voter initiative to assess a new tax on wire transfers sent out of the country. Since few illegal aliens pay taxes on their wages, an 8 percent tax would be Arizona’s first and only chance to tax the income and the proceeds would help cover some of the cost.

n Continue to cut off benefits to illegal aliens already here. While Gov. Janet Napolitano fought voter approved Prop. 200 and vetoed an effort last year to expand voter-approved Proposition 200, we can protect the taxpayer from welfare benefits given to illegals.

n A proposal to hold employers criminally liable for knowingly hiring illegal aliens. By holding employers accountable, jobs for illegals would soon dry up as employers would not risk a sanction such as the loss of a business license for employing an illegal.

Still, some politicians don't get it, after deaths in the desert, depressed wages, billions in lost taxes and additional billions in wasted taxpayer dollars to undeserving recipients, some politicians want to pander to the pro-illegal alien lobby.

I have laid out my agenda for the next year. It is filled with real reform that can provide true savings of life and money. With the federal government taking a backseat, the state needs to step up to the plate.

In the 3 years Gov. Napolitano has been in office she has never once offered any solutions or help in the area of immigration enforcement, she has only fought any (in fact every) effort do enforce the laws and stop illegal aliens from getting taxpayer benefits. If we could get her to work with the Legislature to fight illegal immigration, together we can create a safer and more prosperous Arizona.


142 posted on 03/24/2006 8:26:17 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: p23185

I am sure we have been more carefully monitoring those dens of hate so we must publicly condemn ANY thought of "discriminating against" the terror lovers as an example of "fascism" not to be used against the fascist phonies calling themselves Lovers of God.

From recent stories they are even being monitored by radiation detectors.


143 posted on 03/24/2006 8:40:27 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Pelham

I imagine the vast majority of these troublemakers are US citizens just like they were in the democrat sponsored march in Chicago.

`The Illegals for the most part are too busy working or trying to find work for these stunts. How stupid do these Leftists think we are as to believe those who risked their lives in some cases to get here are going to risk making those efforts a failure by this grandstanding event in the Elect Hillary campaign for '08?

Oh, wait we have been proved plenty stupid by even dumber scams run by the RATS such as leading too many into an insane attack on one of our major allies. These were led to attack the President's wisdom as to the proper foreign policy, weaken the military's efforts in the middle east AND give Osama massive propaganda help. Imagine believing Schumer and Hillary Rotten over the President, General Franks, General Pace, Secretary Rumsfeld?

Not much could be sadder than that.


144 posted on 03/24/2006 8:49:20 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: VOYAGER

These folks are the warmed over Leftists who have always believed feeding people is more important than saving their souls.

Believing the Church is but a social service agency they blindly support those who invariably destroy not just souls but bodies as well. The same kind of Peace Creeps who plague our efforts in Iraq, who adopt resolutions declaring the war in Iraq "immoral", who support the Abortionists.

Any resemblence between these people and Christianity is purely superficial. They are destroying Christianity across the nation.


145 posted on 03/24/2006 8:55:40 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Bravo!


146 posted on 03/24/2006 8:57:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: EternalVigilance

What is going on in the Presbyterian Church is breaking my heart.


147 posted on 03/24/2006 8:59:56 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I hear ya.


148 posted on 03/24/2006 9:00:40 PM PST by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

The illegals can be pretty bold here in southern Cal, especially the ones who have been here for several years. Recent arrivals are afraid to make waves, but the ones who have been here illegally for years know that the government is going to do absolutely nothing about their status. Except to make the taxpayers provide benefits for them, that is.


149 posted on 03/24/2006 9:03:28 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Pelham

No doubt but the vast majority intend to stay below the radar screen. They aren't stupid.


150 posted on 03/24/2006 9:06:01 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: spectre

About 1000 were outside Senator Kyl's office today in Tucson. They claim to be "constituents," so I wonder why all of the signs I could see on the news were in Spanish???


151 posted on 03/24/2006 9:11:19 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Libloather

10,000 on the streets. Letting us know in no uncertain
terms that they dont need our laws and that
furthermore,
they can block streets with no permits anytime they
wish. The next demonstrations will likely
include smashing windows and torching cars, you know,
since we are so mean to them.
As they see weakness they will advance to fill
any perceived power vacuum. We do them a disservice
the longer we wait to demonstrate authority.
Instability of this level will result in deaths.
It cant possibly have a good outcome.

The mayor [Phil Gordon] was ticked that he was left out of the
loop. If he had been included he would have been
all for it [the march]. But he sounded quite unnerved
that he heard about it on the radio. He wasnt able to
capitalize on it even though he's a gutless panderer,
and that scares him. He is no longer useful.


152 posted on 03/24/2006 10:10:24 PM PST by urluquai (The purpose of Islam is to make 'another Monotheist belief' guilty by association)
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To: clawrence3

Well, much to my chagrin, the Catholic church aids and abets illegal aliens. I wish I could find a church (or faith) that espouses personal accountability. I'm tired of paying for freeloaders. I have MY OWN family to support.


153 posted on 03/24/2006 10:17:00 PM PST by gueroloco
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To: clawrence3

Ah, but you see, illegal aliens ARE criminals.


154 posted on 03/24/2006 10:19:13 PM PST by gueroloco
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To: clawrence3

Give them the soup then send them the hell back .


155 posted on 03/24/2006 10:20:39 PM PST by aureliusk
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To: clawrence3

While I very much admire and respect them, priests are NOT above the law. Even the pedophiles.


156 posted on 03/24/2006 10:21:14 PM PST by gueroloco
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To: clawrence3

Yep.


157 posted on 03/24/2006 10:22:23 PM PST by gueroloco
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To: clawrence3

But this is the United States, not Afghanistan. Significant difference between the two, no?


158 posted on 03/24/2006 10:25:15 PM PST by gueroloco
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To: clawrence3

There are laws in Mexico ?


159 posted on 03/24/2006 10:25:49 PM PST by aureliusk
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To: clawrence3

Yep.


160 posted on 03/24/2006 10:26:36 PM PST by gueroloco
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