Posted on 03/24/2006 8:28:46 AM PST by Blogger
GourmetDan Since Mar 21, 2006
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Plenty of them do. Google it.
Interesting as I grew up in the CofC. I've never seen an instrument in any of them. The First Christian Church is just like CofC except they have instruments.
Each congregation is different. Check out the church where Max Lucado is minister. Some have services with instrumental music and services without.
When I was first introduced to a cofC, I was warned about the music stuff. Most beautiful singing I ever heard.
I'm a member of the CofC. I really don't miss the instrumental music. (I've attended other church denominations that have it)
Thunder Bay in Ontario has some that use instruments. In Miss., my sis has told me a few there do, which is a source of nasty strife between them and the more "old school" style of worship. Not all that different than what the Catholics have to contend with when the Anglicans do something different, IMHO.
Although I'm not a CofC'er anymore (Now an EV Free member), I still think acapella singing is the best. We learned how to sing 4 part harmony and know every verse to every hymn by heart. Have come to appreciate that side of it.
"Dan, that was written to a church in a city full of idol worship and prostitution. Prostitutes wore their hair short. Paul was just saying not to go around looking like a prostitute."
Didn't I say you could make the Bible say whatever you want it to? There you go.
The CoC people I know (dozens) all like to sit around and talk about how bad all the 'sinners' are. Not a more self-righteous bunch around.
I'm sure this lady felt entirely justified in what she did.
Just gotta ignore the right Scriptures.
Speaking of judging...you have no idea if his wife felt justified or not, if she is remorseful or not...
Remember, everytime you point a finger, there are 4 pointing back at you.
"Interesting as I grew up in the CofC. I've never seen an instrument in any of them. The First Christian Church is just like CofC except they have instruments."
I married one. They all went to other churches to get married so they could have music in their weddings.
The singing is beautiful, but that's the only thing.
It does border on a cult.
I do remember that, and I lived quite a ways from there. I think the trial is in the caselaw books.
There was also an awful murder of about four women on an outing to a remote area of Starved Rock State Park at LaSalle, looks like about 60 miles sw of Chicago. I don't believe they ever caught the killer.
Both happened a long time ago.
As it stands, they can't really refrain from the viewpoint that baptists, catholics, pentecostals, etc, are all in an unsaved state because of problematic verses like that (then again, Mark 16:16 is pretty hardcore about baptism being a necessity for salvation, which is why i think the Catholics stress it as well--their own version of baptism anyway).
I always found it strange that so many denominations baptize as an option only, and many others as a requirement. That fact alone I believe is a primary reason so many non-christians despise organized christianity. Just my 2 and a half cents.
Welcome to Free Republic.
Most people who sign up within a day of posting something anti-Christian usually are of the "trolling" variety of poster. Unless you have a grudge against this particular denomination?
I've just seen a short article.
How does it border on a cult?
Yes, and that pesky I Peter 3:21 passage, too, not to mention all the examples of conversion in Acts.
My contention is that a truly faithful and penitent believer isn't going to ask "Do I HAVE to?" but rather be both willing and eager to follow and obey in every way possible.
It really is about heart, isn't it? That's what I want for our nation, a collective heart to be His.
I am at Fuller Seminary currently getting my M.A in Theology...been learning a lot of views concerning baptism and trying to decifer what my beliefs are.
I grew up in the CofC. They are very WORKS oriented in their salvation. There are many rules to abide by..one being baptism. It just isn't that. Many believe that you have to be baptised IN THE CHURCH OF CHRIST in order for it to count. You also have to say exactly, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit for the FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS"...if this is not said during baptism, then some believe that baptism doesn't count either!
At any rate...all adults in the NT that converted to Christianity were baptised. NOTHING WE DO CAN SAVE US!! The only thing that saves us is believing in the Lord Jesus. Through our love and obedience to Him, we do what he desires. Jesus desires that we go through the "marriage ceremony" of dying to self, being buried with him and baptism and rising to a new life. This we do because we love Him and want to obey him but not because the water itself saves us.
Just my 2 cents.
Good job there in that post, Jedidah.
Church history is fascinating. Study the history of the Church, the Reformation Movement, and the Restoration Movement, and you'll learn that the men who led the Restoration Movement were seeking to remove non-Bibilical principles that had slowly crept into the church since Pentecost. One of those was instrumental music, although there was great disagreement even then over its use. History tells us that the instrument was not introduced into worship until at least 300 years after Pentecost.
The "denomination name" Church of Christ is rarely seen on church records before the end of the 19th century. The restored church (without instrumental music) was usually called the Christian Church. In the early 1900s disagreements begin to arise once again over the use of instrumental music in worship. Congregations begin to split over the issue. Those that adopted the use of the instrument in the assembly generally kept the name Christian Church, and those that worshipped without an instrument adopted the name Church of Christ.
Since both believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, giving us the pattern for Christianity & worship, it is no surprise that their beliefs are still very similar.
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