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To: js1138
What point is being illustrated?

The point is, when it is said that scientists who support intelligent design don’t publish in peer reviewed journals, at least if the experience of Sternberg is any indication, the aim is to keep it that way, even if it means falsely attacking someone's credentials and professionalism. That very thing is being inadvertently demonstrated by some on this thread, who though they had apparently never even heard of him, nevertheless also began to attack his credentials and professionalism.

Cordially,

133 posted on 03/24/2006 1:06:07 PM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond
That very thing is being inadvertently demonstrated by some on this thread, who though they had apparently never even heard of him, nevertheless also began to attack his credentials and professionalism.

Actually, I wasnt attacking his credentials. It just seems very unusual to me for someone to get two Ph.Ds in the same field.

For example, say he acquired a Ph.D in immunology and then wanted to study yeast genetics for example. He wouldnt need to get a new degree in that field to do so. One would just join a yeast genetics lab for a postdoctoral fellowship.

135 posted on 03/24/2006 1:14:57 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: Diamond
People could support nearly anything in their off time, but the collection and analysis is the heart of science, and data collection is neutral as to theory.

The question remains -- what research has supported ID? What kind of evidence could support ID? No one in the ID movement, going back to William Paley, has been able to formulate a research program for ID, or propose any kind of research that might support.

Simply finding unanswered questions in mainstream science is not support for an alternate hypothesis that does not exist. ID proposes no mode of action, no limits or characteristics of the designer that would distinguish intelligent design from design resulting from natural selection.

All we have is the assertion that unsolved problems imply that solutions are not possible.

And that is theology, not science.
140 posted on 03/24/2006 1:22:25 PM PST by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: Diamond; Right Wing Professor
A friend of mine got his Ph.D in optical physics. He is now doing a post-doc in a cell biology lab (trying to develop novel techniques with state of the art microscopy). He is learning the biology on the job.

Why the heck would anyone go through the trouble to get two Ph.Ds in biology?!

141 posted on 03/24/2006 1:23:05 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: Diamond
The point is, when it is said that scientists who support intelligent design don’t publish in peer reviewed journals, at least if the experience of Sternberg is any indication, the aim is to keep it that way, even if it means falsely attacking someone's credentials and professionalism.

Should the existence of a conspiracy that suppresses the publication of ID articles in scientific journals be part of the standard high school biology curriculum?

145 posted on 03/24/2006 1:36:27 PM PST by Quark2005 (Confidence follows from consilience.)
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