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To: BlackElk

One more (and last) time...I am not IN LOVE with abortion. I'm a realist. I think they should be extremely hard to get, of course no late term abortion and parental notification is a must. I just think complete outlawing of it, in today's world, would be a big mistake. But you know that, we've talked about it. If it makes you think your argument is PEOPLE WHO LOVE ABORTION vs. PEOPLE WHO WANT IT OUTLAWED, then keep your delusions up.


97 posted on 03/24/2006 9:07:03 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Good to hear that you are less enthusiastic for abortion than sometimes seems to be the case. Whether "safe or legal or rare," however, infanticide is still the unwarranted killing of an innocent human being.

Truth on such matters does not change over time. Are there reasons why you believe that outlawing abortion "in today's world" as opposed to, say, in 1950s world, would be a "big mistake."

I would also reiterate that a person who says that he or she is "pro-choice" (this is not now said in reference to you), cannot reasonably mean that he or she is in favor of legalizing a woman's decision to bear a child. That has never been challenged by any law in our country. If some, many or all women were told that they would not be allowed by government to bear ANY children for whatever public policy reasons, I trust that you would join pro-lifers on the barricades to resist such a policy and I would join any feminists with the courage to resist such a policy on their barricades.

"Pro-choice" can only mean favoring the legal status of each woman and her doctor to terminate the life of an innocent preborn child in some circumstances of her choosing or in all circumstances of her choosing. That is the only "choice" that needed legalizing of the "choice between birth and abortion.

I am convinced to a moral certainty that the term "pro-choice" is the product of focus groups experiments by Clinton pollster Stanley Greenberg who is married to Connecticut Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro. Hers is the district where I lived until a few years ago. Stanley taught at Yale and at Southern CT State University before becoming one of the most brilliant operatives of the Democrat Party. He has a daughter by a previous wife who also seems to be as brilliant and will carry on after Stanley retires. If you can obtain his "Middle Class Dreams" written in the pre-Clinton era about Democrat woes in the Reagan era, I think you will agree that he is one of their best. His wife successfully tested "Pro-choice" as a term in the 1990 campaign when she was elected by a razor thin margin. She was previously Executive Director of Emily's List (which funds only non-incumbent pro-abortion female left Democrat candidates for Congress). Rosa recently was the issuer of a letter signed by 55 alleged "Catholic" Democrat Congress members claiming to be seamless garment pro-lifers (i.e. pro-life socialists) including such as Cynthia McKinney and other notoriosos who are no more pro-life than John Kerry (with about three exceptions like James Oberstar).

Whatever our differences, may God bless you and yours. Your post was written with respect. Please accept this post as being respectful as well.

115 posted on 03/24/2006 3:23:14 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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