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To: Pukin Dog; Mr Rogers
"I am sure that is because those who drive Falcon's on a regular basis can suffer from that head-slap they get sometimes with a poor fitting helmet,"

I've got a few stories to support that. For example, one day we had the opportunity to intercept some B-52's flying up to Alasks to drop on our ranges. One of our wingmen decided he wanted to get video of him "killing" a Buff using his bomb pipper. So he rolls in on the guy and the Buff zaps him with a string of trons that made his pipper start doing 360's around the HUD. Undaunted, the intrepid wingman decides to just gun the guy instead. So he rolls in at the Buff's 6 o'clock just in time to hear "Guns kill on the Viper at our 6 o'clock" from the Buff. It was beautiful! And believe it or not, it wasn't me. But don't ask me to tell you about the first time I went 1 v 2 with a couple of hogs....

61 posted on 03/23/2006 11:43:49 AM PST by Rokke
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To: Rokke
I want to hear that story. You don't mess with the Hogs, dude. Usually, its some old man with a ton of experience and a chip on his shoulder just waiting to show some young punk just who should be steering RADAR, and who should be driving his bucket.

Lets hear it.

63 posted on 03/23/2006 12:01:46 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache, so don't be hatin'. LOL!)
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To: Rokke
Guns kill on the Viper at our 6 o'clock

Couldn't do that any more. They took the guns out of the BUFFs. Stupid Clymers in the old Log Command. The radar the controlled those guns (along with the gunner of course) was getting unsupportable. Even back in the mid '70s when I was in AF log command (as an LT, engineer, not a loggie) they had in for that radar and those guns. However, I was told that about the time they had the powers that be convinced to remove them, some Sgt. shot down a MiG over North Vietnam, and it was a couple of decades before they could finally pull off the removal of the "stinger".

79 posted on 03/23/2006 3:58:33 PM PST by El Gato
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