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To: Coleus
"It is an insult to all San Franciscans when a foreign country, like the Vatican, meddles with and attempts to negatively influence this great city's existing and established customs and traditions, such as the right of same-sex couples to adopt and care for children in need."

Since when is the Vatican a country? Must have happened while I was sleeping.

42 posted on 03/22/2006 8:17:49 PM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind and, BTW, Stå sammen med danskerne !)
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To: calex59

Vatican City is it's own state.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/vt.html

Not sticking up for SF just clarifying the issue for you.


47 posted on 03/22/2006 8:22:51 PM PST by Brytani
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To: calex59

"Since when is the Vatican a country? Must have happened while I was sleeping."

Vatican City is considered to be an autonomous nation-state.


53 posted on 03/22/2006 8:32:28 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: calex59
The Vatican (the successor to the Papal States) came into existence because the Popes of Rome grew quite rich and held much land, occupied by their temporal vassals. The Donation of Sutri in 728 put the Papal States irrevocably on the map; however, the tradition of Papal supremacy over his land holdings dates to the 500s.

The Vatican today, although technically a nation-state, occupies only the Pontifical compound and has no real lay population.
77 posted on 03/22/2006 9:16:53 PM PST by dufekin (US Senate: the only place where the majority [44 D] comprises fewer than the minority [55 R])
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To: calex59
It's a country ~ the Pope is a head of state.

This arises out of the Italian political situation ~ used to be the Pope ran most of Northern Italy. Then, after a whole lot of history, Garibaldi, Buongiovanni and others held a successful revolution that merged the Kingdom of Piedmont, the Papal States, and other segments of then then politically fragmented Italian peninsula, together with Sicilia, and created a unified Italy (with a king, later deposed and replaced by a Republic with a dictator).

The Revolutionaries carved Vatican City out of Italy and set it up as its own little country.

94 posted on 03/23/2006 5:26:58 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: calex59
Since when is the Vatican a country? Must have happened while I was sleeping.

Actually, Vatican City IS a recognized "country," or at least a "City/State" with it's own military (The Swiss Guard) and postal system.

Mark

99 posted on 03/23/2006 5:36:01 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: calex59
Since when is the Vatican a country?

It actually is. The State of Vatican City is a sovereign state within Italy and the smallest country in the world. They have their own currency, their own citizenship, and their own passports. It has observer status at the UN. I think it actually can vote, but it refuses to.

106 posted on 03/23/2006 7:40:14 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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