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The evidence was in plain view. Plain view? Too bad they wasted so much time with the building of telescopes and other equimpment to measure with since it was in "plain view". No wonder it took so long, since they wasted so much time on unnecessary developments. Looked at any atoms lately? BTW, to the fellow who asked bout if I meant to say thermodynamics, I did indeed misspeak. Newtons laws of Classical Dynamics and Zeroths Law of thermo dynamics. I was up late discussing this.. and in fact find it hard to believe this thread has gone this long.. anyone else getting bored? In any event, I am dropping this one, because I AM geting bored with it and have other threads I want to address. You win, protect your kids from "dangerous" ideas all ya like. I do not care about the subject enough to dehate it further. You obviously are more frightened of your children being corrupted more than I care about their minds being expanded. I will go away and drink my poison and stop corrupting your youth now. ;)

"In any event, I am dropping this one, because I AM geting bored with it and have other threads I want to address."

You forgot the part where your claims were demolished.

"You obviously are more frightened of your children being corrupted more than I care about their minds being expanded. I will go away and drink my poison and stop corrupting your youth now. ;)"

Is that a promise? :)

"sure I promise. It puts me in good company, men like Socrates and Copernicus.. and places you into the catagory of the other guys who were so frightened of opposing ideas that they wanted them dead."

Copernicus killed himself? That's news. Who wanted him dead?

BTW, your melodramatic hysterics are very amusing. I am not stopping anybody from believing whatever they wish. Theology doesn't belong in a science class; creationism/ID is not science. Evolution is. Deal with it. Or else I'll summon the powers of Newton's Laws of Thermodynamics and smite thee! :)

Don't Freepmail me again, unless you want it posted again.

In any event, I am dropping this one, because I AM geting bored with it and have other threads I want to address. You win, protect your kids from "dangerous" ideas all ya like. I do not care about the subject enough to dehate it further.

Most folks who come unarmed to a gunfight get bored with it pretty quick.

Regarding your point about the relative likelihood of hummingbirds humming the 5th Symphony, and DNA--you are refuting comic book science. Modern biology does not propose that DNA, cellularity, or any other complexly related machinery in the biological toolkit sprang into existence overnight due to lightning bolts in mudpuddles, or any other form of instantaneous miraculous tinkering. So the odds calculations you have been proudly refusing to provide are irrelevant. You are not refuting anything science is proposing.

"ROFLMSAO. Post it all ya want. Your "You promise?" thing was assinine (sic), simple as that."

As was your drama queen melodramatics.

"And yeah, Socrates was forced to drink pison(sic), killing himself, by others who thought he was corrupting the youth. Try cracking open a history book and educating yourself."

I said Copernicus, not Socrates. You claimed both were persecuted and killed themselves. You said,

"sure I promise. It puts me in good company, men like Socrates and Copernicus...and places you into the catagory(sic) of the other guys who were so frightened of opposing ideas that they wanted them dead."

I responded with:

" Copernicus killed himself? That's news. Who wanted him dead?"

Don't know who you think you are fooling, as I posted the whole freepmail. I never mentioned Socrates.

"I merely freepmailed it because I figured you would prefer to keep a personalized comment and the response to it to yourself, since I did not figure you would like to advertise your stupidity and I did not intend to do it for you.. call it courtesy."

Now that's a good joke!

"Ya wanna post it, and this one, in open forum, be my guest. I have no problems with it if you choose to advertise your ignorance. But with your response about Socrates, you already have advertised it, so knock yourself out. ;)"

As I CLEARLY said Copernicus, you are the one making the fool of themselves. :)

Now, stop freepmailing me or I'll smite you with Newton's Thermodynamic Whammy. :)

Plain view? Too bad they wasted so much time with the building of telescopes and other equimpment to measure with since it was in "plain view".

Copernicus didn't use a telescope.

I have no problem with 'dangerous' ideas, only with the mislabeling of ideas (i.e. intelligent design as science...) Come up with a few positive tests for the veracity of ID and we'll have something to talk about.