Israel May Be Next al-Qaida Battleground

Breitbart.com ^ | 03/22/06 | STEVEN GUTKIN

[Fred Nerks]

Hatred might just drive the fanatics into a fatal error...Israel seems like a bottle neck to me. Where are they going to hide? In tiny little Gaza?

Curious. Wait and see.

[nopardons]

bttt

[nopardons]

bttt

[streetpreacher]

Message to Al-Quaeda: They won't try to win your hearts and minds.

[streetpreacher]

Thank you for providing this invaluable research.

[SunkenCiv]

Iran isn't necessarily after Israel per se; Iran is worried about not being able to dominate the Middle East. Taking out Saddam was a necessity, but his dictatorship version of Iraq was like a cork in a bottle. Iran has a population that is the same as Turkey's, which has the only army in the Middle East (other than the US') which can stand up to Iran's.

Saudi Arabia has 1/3 the population (and five million or so are guest workers, because the Saudis don't like to work for a living) and more armament than can actually be simultaneously used (analogous to the US situation with television sets), but probably can't defend itself.

Egypt is the same size as Iran, but its army can't fight its way out of a wet paper bag.

Iran plans to replace all the gov'ts in the region with theocracies, with itself at the top of the hegemonic pyramid. It will do it through covert means, by proxy, wherever possible (Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Gaza, and Syria, and possibly Egypt, are all currently in play); Turkey is under pressure from the Kurds, and my, isn't it awfully strange that some Kurdish terrorist faction suddenly has the ways and means to blow up stuff in Turkey?

When push gets to shove, I don't think the US will have to worry about Turkish help in the liberation of Iran.

[the anti-liberal]

I'd be interested in where the UN stands in all of this.

Some of my speculative thoughts:

From the UN's perspective, if the US 'fails' in the WOT, the UN may stand to gain in stature in the world as the greatest political power (though it's connected to no country).

I would speculate that the UN, or at least Kofi Annan, has decided that al-Qaeda (and by extension militant Islam) will be the most likely victor and has been aligning itself so as to be in their good graces when they do.

Wild speculation has the UN becoming a strategic foundation and tool for the imposition, implementation and enforcement of Sharia Law upon member and nonmember states. Given the al-Qaeda's stated goal is world domination, it would only make sense, from al-Qaeda's perspective, to use the existing structure that is the UN for their own purpose.

If, strategically, this is what al-Qaeda et al have in mind - and it would make sense for them to, imo - Kofi Annan doesn't necessarily have to be aware of it or in on it, as there are many 'invisible' underlings in any bureaucracy that do the real work of making the machinery run. How many worker bees in the UN are Muslims, how many connected to al-Qaeda - overtly and covertly?

Just making subtle changes in, and interpretations of, law - like what we see here in the States, can be enough: a little there, little here and the next thing you know, the water has come to a boil.

The very fact that the UN is not itself a country and is not connected to or beholden to any country (and hence to any people) may be it's greatest asset from al-Qaeda's point of view.

[Fred Nerks]

Shia or Sunni, or any one of the 78 sects that hate each other?

I found this article fascinating:


http://www.sikhspectrum.com/052004/shia_sunni_18.htm

[Fred Nerks]

When push gets to shove, I don't think the US will have to worry about Turkish help in the liberation of Iran.

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Comforting thought.The Turks are hardly going to assist the mullah's ambitions to rule the world...

[Risha]

bookmarked

[alarm rider]

Let's hope they man up and get Bibi in there ASAP.

[little jeremiah]

IIRC, that letter has been posted before and it is indeed very informative. The only problem is that the words "India" and "Hindu" are missing. Much of what is attributed to Assyrians stems from the ancient Vedic civilization of India. Invading Muslims called the inhabitants of the Sindh River area "Hindus" since the "S" was pronounced "H".

Anyway, many of the arts and sciences mentioned originated in the Vedas or upavedas (sub Vedas) and spread throughout east Asia and Asia minor and were adapted by many indigenous peoples.

Most of what is considered to be Islamic or Arabic was learned (stolen?) from others, this is true. Geometry, arithmetic, medicine, astronomy, poetry, architecture and so on were all described in Vedic texts long before Mohammed was born.

[SunkenCiv]

Well put. One quibble:

Wild speculation has the UN becoming a strategic foundation and tool for the imposition, implementation and enforcement of Sharia Law upon member and nonmember states. Given the al-Qaeda's stated goal is world domination, it would only make sense, from al-Qaeda's perspective, to use the existing structure that is the UN for their own purpose.

I don't think that speculation is all that wild. ;')

[SunkenCiv]

Some Turks will, because they support the return of the Caliphate. But for the most part, Turks won't submit to Arab rule. Unification of the Moslem world has never actuallly taken place for very long a time; most recently the Ottoman Empire ruled a good bit of the Moslem world, probably most of its population, but the non-Turk majority was always restive.

[RobbyS]

As you say, great letter. I doubt he received even a form letter in reply, as her intent was to flatter some very rich Arabs.

But it reminds me how little history our corporate leaders know. Furthermore, as a former high school world history teacher, I can tell you that this is what is/was taught about the "Arab" world. Islamic civilization is parasidic on the peoples it has conquered, but one learns nothing about the many peoples that are included in its empire. The Muslims complain about colonialism, but what, really, was their policy, but colonialism? It was true of the Arabs; it was true of the Turks.