Posted on 03/22/2006 7:26:16 AM PST by sinkspur
Who says time travel isn't possible?
I got a bona fide '60s flashback last week when I attended a meeting of the John Birch Society.
Remember them?
Frankly, I was astonished to learn the Birch Society still exists. Shouldn't it have crumbled along with the Berlin Wall?
For those too young to remember, the Birch Society was one of many groups fighting the global menace of communism.
But of all the patriots standing foursquare against communism, the Birchers were always the ones in tin-foil hats.
Or so it seemed. Bless their hearts, they were sort of the kooky cousins of anti-communism – the folks who never met a conspiracy theory they didn't bite.
And sure enough, last week's meeting had barely started before there was a sneering reference to the Council on Foreign Relations.
I got a nostalgic little shiver. How cute! They still hate the CFR.
You know in the cartoons how the Super Friends always battled the evil Legion of Doom?
Well, for Birchers, the starchy Council on Foreign Relations is the Legion of Doom. It's part of the nefarious "invisible government" that really runs the country.
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Well...he does sound like a goofball...but, seriously, I would bet that you (and many Freepers) would agree with most of what the JBS advocates
Any group is bound to have nutcases, be it a political group, a party, or a church. I'd still like to know which official JBS stances you have a problem with. Do you agree with them that we should get out of the UN? Do you agree with their position on absolutely unrestricted gun rights?
As far as their economic stances, reasonable people can disagree with them, but why the hostility? I think that pro-abortion people are much more offensive than these folks and I hope you'd agree.
Communism is one form of socialism. All Communists are socialists, but not all socialists are Communists. (Some are Nazis.)
How did you come up with that conclusion?
As for Eisenhower being a Communist...you should read The Politician.
Welch's charges against Eisenhower were not made without a fair amount of evidence...
You also have to remember that, in 1952, this was still mostly a Republic operating in accordance with the US Constitution...JBS supporters (and most mainline conservatives) supported Taft and saw in him a man that could halt the advance of the internationalist, big central government, liberal Rockefeller Republicanism that we now think of as a mainstream Republican and that differs little from socialism...it wasn't so in 1952 and even Eisenhower's supporters probably did not appreciate how much he would bloat the federal government and shred the Constitution...again, routine nowadays and most Americans have become desensitized to it...but there are a few patriots left who continue to sound the alarm
Eisenhower's political destruction of Taft and Joe McCarthy...his defense of known communists as Columbia U president...his autobiography was ghost written by Joseph Barnes who was a Communist...Eisenhower's actions around WWII....it was Eisenhower that made the decision to allow the Red Army to advance into Berlin and Prague (Eisenhower is still reviled in the Czech Republic for this)...
it was Eisenhower that put Operation Keelhaul into effect which forcibly repatriated millions of Soviet refugees and anticommunists back to the Soviet Union (its worth noting that this secret US government sponsored program was uncovered by Julius Epstein...a high-ranking Jewish member of JBS (I guess no one told him that the JBS was so anti-Semitic?))...it was Eisenhower that aupported the Morgenthau Plan designed to starve millions of Germans by excluding Germany alone from the program while the US bestowed food and aid on the Soviets, the Japanese, the Italians
If you read The Politician...you may not think Welch's statements about Eisenhower are as kooky as you now think
I think the JBS has been a decent source for research and identifying certain trends but they missed the boat when it came to educating much of the public on a lot of issues.
Of course the "it all happens by accident" crowd probably never gives much thought as to why we have swarms of illegals coming across the borders and breaking federal law in the process without much threat from ICE or the fact that illegal immigration is conditioning us to the coming "FTAA/American Union" or how it appears many of the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto seem to be very much intertwined with the policies from our fedgov's multiple agencies or that we're so dumbed down that many folks don't even know we were created to be a "constitutional republic" as opposed to this style of corporate commercial governance known as a "democracy".
Spare me.
Dear God.
Apparently, the JBS conducted an online poll last year where they voted that President Bush should be impeached.
No problem...we wouldn't want any facts to get in the way of your opinion
In your opinion, would repeated violations of the oath every President takes to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" be an impeachable offense?
It possibly could be, but it would have to achieve the standard of High Crimes and Misdemeanors.
From your question, I assume you believe that President Bush has repeatedly violated that oath and that he should be impeached.
What a hoot and goofball.
I don't think there is any question that he has repeatedly violated the US Constitution...virtually the entire federal government operates outside the limits imposed on it by the Constitution...it certainly did not start with President Bush (I think every President since Cleveland has ignored the Constitution) and contempt for the Constitution is certainly demonstrated in practice by virtually every member of Congress (Ron Paul may be the only exception)...but none of those facts gives license to violate your oath of office.
And I do believe repeated violations of the Constitution is an impeachable offense...but, of course, who would impeach him...his partners in crime in Congress?
I think conservatives who want to impeach this President are on the fringe. So far to the right that they end up standing shoulder to shoulder with Russ Feingold.
Feingold and his leftist buddies should be the first to be impeached
The account of John Birch's death that I remember said that he openly confronted a group of Communist guerillas and actually slapped the leader's face - - causing "loss of face" that could not be tolerated. Around that same time in 1945 a friend of mine was stationed on an American airfield when the Reds decided to move in and take over. A little well-directed fire from the US antiaircraft guns drove them off. Since our presence in China was no longer of any benefit to Mao's forces they were determined to drive us out.
Any citizen who believes that the U.S. should give up its power to a forgeign entity is traitor to this country.
If I saw some facts, I'd take them into account.
All I see is a bunch of whackos posting a lot of garbage and demaggoging a good man.
But what's new, huh?
""Why do you have that negative perception of the Society? Perhaps your tin foil hat thoughts were planted there by the press's portrayal even back then""
Well Bill Buckley would certainly disagree with you....it is no coincidence that the conservative movement began is ascendency shortly after Buckley drove them under the rocks where they currently reside.
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