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With John Birch Society, it's the same old drill
Dallas Morning News ^ | 3/22/2006 | Steve Blow

Posted on 03/22/2006 7:26:16 AM PST by sinkspur

Who says time travel isn't possible?

I got a bona fide '60s flashback last week when I attended a meeting of the John Birch Society.

Remember them?

Frankly, I was astonished to learn the Birch Society still exists. Shouldn't it have crumbled along with the Berlin Wall?

For those too young to remember, the Birch Society was one of many groups fighting the global menace of communism.

But of all the patriots standing foursquare against communism, the Birchers were always the ones in tin-foil hats.

Or so it seemed. Bless their hearts, they were sort of the kooky cousins of anti-communism – the folks who never met a conspiracy theory they didn't bite.

And sure enough, last week's meeting had barely started before there was a sneering reference to the Council on Foreign Relations.

I got a nostalgic little shiver. How cute! They still hate the CFR.

You know in the cartoons how the Super Friends always battled the evil Legion of Doom?

Well, for Birchers, the starchy Council on Foreign Relations is the Legion of Doom. It's part of the nefarious "invisible government" that really runs the country.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: birch; birchers; jbs; johnbirchsociety
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
What isn't surprising is that, despite being presented DOCUMENTED PROOF -- and it is all over the internet -- that you still refuse to admit you were wrong.

calling Ike a commie is absolutely incongruent with everything JBS the organization has stood for all these years

Well, I guess Welch's book makes a liar out of you, doesn't it?

101 posted on 03/22/2006 10:19:13 AM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: Howlin

I love the way that nobody is 'in error' anymore. Now everyone who doesn't agree with you 100% is an idiot or a liar in your eyes, aren't they?

Check and make sure your water isn't contaminated, would you.


102 posted on 03/22/2006 10:24:46 AM PST by B4Ranch (The truth is good for you, like sunlight, but too much all at once can really hurt.)
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To: Fiji Hill
"Eisenhower, he's a Russian spy.
So's Roosevelt, Lincoln, and that Jefferson guy."

Bob Dylan, "Talkin' John Birch Blues," 1963

One out of 4 ain't bad for a hippie!
103 posted on 03/22/2006 10:27:51 AM PST by Shooter1001
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To: B4Ranch
Now everyone who doesn't agree with you 100% is an idiot or a liar in your eyes, aren't they?

People who, when presented with IRREFUTABLE PROOF, continue to mouth the same INACCURATE TALKING POINTS, surely are liars or idiots.

I'm surprised you think differently. I thought you believed in the truth, too.

104 posted on 03/22/2006 10:28:29 AM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: wideminded

no thanks....I don't even care if "Welch" might have said it once.....What I objected to was the scurrilous statement that the JBS" said it.

"Thet" didn't, nor have "they" said anything of the sort. And I don't give one rip about whose feathers get ruffled by JBS books such as Perloffs "Shadows of Power", either....THAT is what the real issue is here......facts that ARE verifiable.


105 posted on 03/22/2006 10:30:14 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Howlin

DOCUMENTED PROOF

such liberty we have with freedom of speech here in the US, yes?

Gimme a break, YOU didn't document anything at all, LOL, except your self-perceived mantle of authority :)


106 posted on 03/22/2006 10:33:06 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

It's in his OWN book; the fact that you're trying to disavow it only proves to me what a damaging charge it was against the JBS.


107 posted on 03/22/2006 10:34:46 AM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: Howlin

"...what a damaging charge it was against the JBS."

Yes, I already understood perfectly well that bashing JBS was the whole point of the original falsehood, and have since stated what actually ruffles tailfeathers about them. That that is, is; that that is not, is not.


108 posted on 03/22/2006 10:41:50 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: sinkspur
In other words, I've scratched many Birchers on FR and their comeback is always "The JOOOOOS are to blame."

Interesting. I've never seen "The JOOOOOS" blamed for anything on here. Neither the JBS nor the The New American has published or taken any anti-Semitic positions.

Nevertheless, based on some unseen, anonymous, "many Birchers", the JBS is anti-Semitic.

You make a solid case, thanks.

FWIW, I'm not a Bircher. But I personally know some, have read numerous TNA issues. I usually feel it's a good idea to actually try to know something firsthand about someone before sounding off about it. It doesn't take a whole lot of effort to do.

109 posted on 03/22/2006 10:54:04 AM PST by apologist
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To: sinkspur

110 posted on 03/22/2006 10:54:22 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: Darnright

is that Colmes' forehead?


111 posted on 03/22/2006 10:57:31 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

>is that Colmes' forehead?<

They do look related, don't they?


112 posted on 03/22/2006 11:00:04 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: sinkspur

Do you think the CFR is a positive force for this country?


113 posted on 03/22/2006 11:22:19 AM PST by jmc813 (I Thessalonians 5:9-11)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

You'll like this.


114 posted on 03/22/2006 11:22:58 AM PST by jmc813 (I Thessalonians 5:9-11)
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To: sinkspur
Maybe because they saw rich Jews manipulating politicians and public events?

I searched jbs.org for the terms "Jewish" and "Jew" and found nothing even remotely anti-semitic. The majority of the search results are pro 2nd Amendment articles explaining how the Jews in 1930's Germany would have been better off if they were armed.

115 posted on 03/22/2006 11:26:27 AM PST by jmc813 (I Thessalonians 5:9-11)
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To: Kimmers
They had John Birch Society pamphlets

JBS is to politics as JW is to religion.

116 posted on 03/22/2006 11:31:18 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: sinkspur
No thanks. The last Bircher I had extensive contact with on here was a goofball under the moniker of Inspector Harry Callahan.

So you're going to bash an entire group based upon a freeper with nutty ideas. Imagine what sad shape the GOP would be in if every potential voter based their decision on what a few weird Republican freepers posted.

I suspect you have deeper issues with some of the more non-controversial core beliefs of the JBS and do not want to admit it on a conservative forum.

117 posted on 03/22/2006 11:36:45 AM PST by jmc813 (I Thessalonians 5:9-11)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Robert Welch apparently having now having fallen out of favor with the Society, who would you now have us believe was authorized to speak for it in the 1950's?


118 posted on 03/22/2006 11:43:43 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: jmc813
Do you think the CFR is a positive force for this country?

Yes. Wealthy businessmen and politicos getting together infuses money into whatever local economy in which they are meeting.

The CFR doesn't actually DO anything.

119 posted on 03/22/2006 11:45:37 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: jmc813
I suspect you have deeper issues with some of the more non-controversial core beliefs of the JBS and do not want to admit it on a conservative forum.

I think the JBS is a marginal group which attracts lots of conspirazoid nutcases.

They can barely open their mouths before "CFR", "The Federal Reserve" and "fiat money" come tumbling out.

120 posted on 03/22/2006 11:49:43 AM PST by sinkspur
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