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Saddam On Tapes: 'We Don't Have Anything Hidden'
news4jax ^ | 3-22-06 | AP

Posted on 03/22/2006 4:12:46 AM PST by OXENinFLA

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To: mewzilla

I can't find a story on this that isn't from this AP report. Seems to be a single source story.


21 posted on 03/22/2006 4:28:30 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: OXENinFLA
This was posted yesterday... I believe the article was by the AP.
22 posted on 03/22/2006 4:31:40 AM PST by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: OXENinFLA
Apparatus of Lies Saddam’s Disinformation and Propaganda 1990-2003 Table of Contents Executive Summary....................................................................................4 Crafting Tragedy.........................................................................................6 Iraqi Co-Locations of Military and Civilians. Then….............................................................7 …And Now...................................................................................................................................10 Case Study: The Amiriyah Bunker-Shelter............................................................................12 Exploiting Suffering..................................................................................14 Blaming Sanctions for Regime Failure...................................................................................14 Case Study: Baby Funerals......................................................................................................16 Depleted Uranium Scare............................................................................................................18 Medical Facts on Iraqi Chemical Weapons Exposure.........................................................18 Exploiting Islam.........................................................................................20 The Hajj Shakedowns................................................................................................................21 Oppression of Shi’a Muslims ...................................................................................................22 The Gulf War: Lies About Non-Muslim Militaries in the Middle East................................23 The Gulf War: Lies About Conflicts between Muslim and Western Allies.......................24 Corrupting the Public Record..................................................................25 Self-inflicted Damage.................................................................................................................25 False Man-in-the-Street Interview............................................................................................26 Censorship...................................................................................................................................25 Covert Placement.......................................................................................................................26 Case Study: The Al-Fahd Forgery...........................................................................................28 The Gulf War: False Claims of Victory...................................................................................29 Conclusion: The Lies Continue...............................................................30 Bibliography..............................................................................................31 Endnotes....................................................................................................33 “It is not a lie when you are ordered to lie.” – a senior Iraqi biological weapons official http://www.whitehouse.gov/ogc/apparatus/apparatus-of-lies.pdf
23 posted on 03/22/2006 4:41:12 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: SIRTRIS

That previous post did not come out well, here's brief & to the point counter argument!

Apparatus of Lies
Saddam’s Disinformation and Propaganda
1990-2003

http://www.whitehouse.gov/ogc/apparatus/apparatus-of-lies.pdf


24 posted on 03/22/2006 4:44:17 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: rhombus
(more here)


25 posted on 03/22/2006 4:52:06 AM PST by yoe ("If the enemy is in range, so are you.")
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To: OXENinFLA

What a nice guy. Saddam for president!


26 posted on 03/22/2006 4:54:56 AM PST by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: OXENinFLA
I have never heard an explanation of these tapes. I assume these were semi-public meetings and they knew they were being recorded.

Any tapes on there about Sadaam ordering tens of thousands of murders, tortures, his sons raping, etc? I doubt it. Any talk of trying to blow up former President Bush?

27 posted on 03/22/2006 4:56:50 AM PST by Williams
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To: backhoe

You may want to put this one in the BS file.


28 posted on 03/22/2006 4:57:31 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: mewzilla
(helpful link)
29 posted on 03/22/2006 4:58:06 AM PST by yoe ("If the enemy is in range, so are you.")
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To: OXENinFLA

Thanks- I missed this one.


30 posted on 03/22/2006 4:58:28 AM PST by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)...)
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To: yoe

Wow. Thanks!


31 posted on 03/22/2006 4:59:41 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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The factories will remain in our brains." But Saddam talked about converting the factories to beneficial uses.

More baby milk factories?

32 posted on 03/22/2006 5:02:14 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Globalism: a Marxist revolution from the top down? The Third Way loves it.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Some of Saddam's inner circle talked of reviving the programs, saying, "The factories will remain in our brains." But Saddam talked about converting the factories to beneficial uses.

This statement set off my BS detector.

33 posted on 03/22/2006 5:02:45 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: OXENinFLA

Are these the same tapes that were reported to have hours of Saddam's conversations discussing an ACTIVE weapons program?

OK - I'm confused - either there is recorded evidence of Saddam having a WMD program (as repeatedly reported here and several other places), or there is evidence recorded that he did NOT have WMD.... It cannot really be both ways.


34 posted on 03/22/2006 5:03:30 AM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: mewzilla; OXENinFLA
Here's another AP report from the Seattle P-I. More info there. They don't specify which transcript this was taken from, so there's no way to verify what's being reported.

Well isn't that convenient

35 posted on 03/22/2006 5:11:44 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: Tarpon
Why did he keep inspectors out, GW called his bluff.
36 posted on 03/22/2006 5:24:10 AM PST by buggy02
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To: OXENinFLA
Jeff Greenfield cherry-picked this story in IMUS this morning as further proof GWB is wrong on everything. No mention of the dozen translations countering his argument. (Yawn..., what else would one expect).
37 posted on 03/22/2006 5:27:49 AM PST by Shqipo (2006 is Bush Country!)
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To: buggy02

Bluff implies that Saddam didn't have WMDs ... I am not so sure. There would have been no point in bluffing a loaded gun, you will loose every time.


38 posted on 03/22/2006 5:29:27 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: OXENinFLA

'We Don't Have Anything Hidden...It's All In Syria'


39 posted on 03/22/2006 5:31:38 AM PST by RetSignman (( HELP...I'm trapped between these curved things))
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To: OXENinFLA

More from the AP:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1751481



Amer Mohammed Rashid, a top weapons program official, told a 1996 presidential meeting he laid out the facts to the U.N. chief inspector.

"We don't have anything to hide, so we're giving you all the details," he said he told Rolf Ekeus.

In his final report in October 2004, Charles Duelfer, head of a post-invasion U.S. team of weapons hunters, concluded Iraq and the U.N. inspectors had, indeed, dismantled the nuclear program and destroyed the chemical and biological weapons stockpiles by 1992, and the Iraqis never resumed production.

Saddam's goal in the 1990s was to have the Security Council lift the economic sanctions strangling the Iraqi economy, by convincing council members Iraq had eliminated its WMD. But he was thwarted at every turn by what he and aides viewed as U.S. hard-liners blocking council action.


40 posted on 03/22/2006 5:33:14 AM PST by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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