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Is America doomed to lose the ultimate battle?
Flagstaff Arizona Sun ^ | March 22, 2006 edition | William Rusher

Posted on 03/21/2006 6:23:07 PM PST by Graybeard58

After the Vietnam war had ended, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap, the North's top commander, admitted that North Vietnam had never possessed the military strength necessary to defeat the United States. Everything, he acknowledged, depended on eroding the determination of the American home front to win. So the North Vietnamese had hung on grimly, inflicting steady casualties, until the balance of opinion in the United States swung against continuing the war.

A similar calculation has obviously been made in Iraq by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. He knows very well that he can never oust the Americans from Iraq by military force. But he remembers the lesson of Vietnam, and can watch television and read the news reports as well as any American, and he knows that public disillusion with the war is growing in the United States. It is only a matter of time, as he sees it, before "the world's only superpower" decides to cut its losses and withdraw its troops from Iraq.

Truth to tell, the United States is developing quite a knack for losing its wars. The last declared war we won (counting Korea as essentially a stalemate) was World War II -- an immense global conflict in which Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor ended all arguments against our participation at the very outset. In Vietnam, we simply quit on our ally, the South, and came home. And it is beginning to be a very good question whether we may not wind up doing the same in Iraq.

Is it coincidence that domestic opposition to the wars in Vietnam and Iraq has been led by our liberals, with the increasing support of the Democratic Party? Significant American military involvement in Vietnam actually began under the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, but President Nixon took up the cause and the Democrats ultimately abandoned it. And, of course, the war in Iraq has been a Bush (and therefore Republican) project from the start, though a good many Democrats in Congress originally supported it. So the pattern that has emerged involves Republicans initiating, or at any rate supporting, these small wars, while the Democrats, and more generally the whole liberal apparatus, gradually come to oppose them, and eventually force an American defeat.

Certainly there is no denying that the powerful liberal influence in the American media has been thrown into the battle on the side of withdrawal and defeat. Was there ever, in World War II, a public opinion poll asking people on the home front (let alone the battlefront) whether they thought our losses in lives and treasure were "worth it"? Did the media ever expose an episode in which a German or Japanese prisoner was treated, shall we say, unkindly? Were retired generals ever sought out to criticize battles that were poorly conducted, such as Mark Clark's landing at Anzio? Was hostility to American forces (even in Britain) eagerly reported?

No, these weapons have only been deployed recently. But they are very much a part of the story of Iraq, and they will deserve credit for having played a major role in its outcome if America's will to persist and prevail there is undermined to the point of our effective defeat.

Of course, Iraq from the start was George W. Bush's war, and he cannot fairly expect to be exempt from criticism if it goes badly. But we are not facing here simply a disagreeable aspect of the democratic process. What I am suggesting is that our politics have become so polarized that the president's opponents are prepared to undermine the war effort, even if it would otherwise succeed, in order to bring him down.

If so -- if we, as a nation, are so crippled by dissent that we are incapable of projecting our military power in ways determined by our elected leaders -- it will soon cease to matter whether we are the world's only superpower or not. We will, in truth, be merely a helpless giant, ready to be faced down by any al-Zarqawi with a will superior to our own.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gwot; resolve; williamrusher
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1 posted on 03/21/2006 6:23:10 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
Yep. Nailed it. Political Power is more important to the current Democrat Leadership then the long term security and safety of Americans. It is a rather pointed reason why they should lose what power they do have. The current Democrat Party Leadership is simply incapable of exercising political power responsibly.
2 posted on 03/21/2006 6:25:35 PM PST by MNJohnnie (To Dems: Communism has been tired repeatedly and it doesn't work.- Freeper Lizma)
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To: Graybeard58
"...Of course, Iraq from the start was George W. Bush's war, and he cannot fairly expect to be exempt from criticism if it goes badly..."

Nor if it goes well.

3 posted on 03/21/2006 6:26:29 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Graybeard58
We will, in truth, be merely a helpless giant, ready to be faced down by any al-Zarqawi with a will superior to our own liberals.

there, fixed it. Libbies are the spineless ones and have got way too much influence.

4 posted on 03/21/2006 6:26:56 PM PST by Palpatine (Every single liberal is now an enemy of the republic!)
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To: Graybeard58

Rusher says WW2 was the last "declared" war we won. I don't dispute that, at least politically, but have we even had a "declared" war since WW2?


5 posted on 03/21/2006 6:28:23 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Temple Owl

ping


6 posted on 03/21/2006 6:28:40 PM PST by Temple Owl (Excelsior! Onward and upward.)
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To: Graybeard58

Vietnam appeared three words into the article. Citing Morel's Law of Liberal Determinism, I wasted my time by reading the rest of the article.


7 posted on 03/21/2006 6:30:32 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Graybeard58

politicians are not generals and generals are not politicians......I know generals can get the job done.......politicians cannot agree on how to do a job, let alone complete it.

I have never seen a 5 star senator......

public opinion is manipulated by politicians for personal gain. what ever happened to term limits?


8 posted on 03/21/2006 6:32:40 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (ELECT SOME WORKERS AND REMOVE THE JERKERS!!)
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To: Graybeard58
What I am suggesting is that our politics have become so polarized that the president's opponents are prepared to undermine the war effort, even if it would otherwise succeed, in order to bring him down.

'xactly.

9 posted on 03/21/2006 6:33:17 PM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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To: Graybeard58
Rusher is correct. The Dems such as Durbin, Murtha, Boxer and many more are willing to sacrifice the lives already lost in this fight for a temporary political gain.
10 posted on 03/21/2006 6:34:03 PM PST by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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To: Graybeard58

i am more concerned with the moral battle going on in this world...


11 posted on 03/21/2006 6:34:57 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: rlmorel
I wasted my time by reading the rest of the article.

Must have, because the whole article is putting liberalism in its place. Showing them for the traitors that they are.

12 posted on 03/21/2006 6:35:22 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: ozzymandus

We didn`t lose in Vietnam, Congress did.


13 posted on 03/21/2006 6:35:59 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we lose)
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To: MNJohnnie
One big difference here is that I see a "Mussolini Moment" in Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's future.

At the time no one had any real interest in such an end for Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap. After all, the Secretary of Defense, McNamara, had no intention of winning the war.

14 posted on 03/21/2006 6:36:59 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: rlmorel

My problem with this article is I waste my breath reading it. think about it.


15 posted on 03/21/2006 6:37:35 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we lose)
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To: Graybeard58

Guilty as charged.


16 posted on 03/21/2006 6:38:23 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Graybeard58

If GWB had not gone into Iraq, you could still turn on Hardball every nite and hear Chrissy throwing a hissy about GWB not going into Iraq. The libs hate Bush 1st, no matter what he does.


17 posted on 03/21/2006 6:40:18 PM PST by umgud (gitrdun)
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To: Graybeard58
and the same exact people that spearheaded the lies that fueled the anti-American 'get-out-now' (Vietnam) has been trying to get this ball rolling for 2 years now - NEVER forget Kennedy, Kerry, Hanoi Jane and RAmsey Clark

They're finding it a bit tougher as this is a VOLUNTEER military. They haven't gotten the significance of that distinction yet

18 posted on 03/21/2006 6:40:40 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Graybeard58
When America wins this war, Vietnam will finally be exorcised!

Draftees then....volunteers now.

The anti-war rallies have been pitifully meager.

19 posted on 03/21/2006 6:42:01 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: Graybeard58

That strategery works 99% of the time. I extrapolated that out to encompass all the time I spend on FR, and I gained an extra 3 years on my life by weeding out the liberal talking points.

You win some. You lose some.


20 posted on 03/21/2006 6:43:05 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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