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He Was Born Skvortsov, on the Rolls He's Shpak
Moscow News ^ | Tuesday, March 21, 2006 | Oksana Yablokova

Posted on 03/21/2006 5:41:32 AM PST by A. Pole

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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yushchenko chairs a board that provides grants to abortion clinics, reproductive rights groups, and same sex rights groups. So yeah.


41 posted on 03/21/2006 8:47:52 PM PST by x5452
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To: AmishDude

Tailgetter didn't find 'the source'. Anti-war.com mirrors numerous articles especially those of republicans as it suits their needs.

Ron Paul. Is he a liberal to you?


42 posted on 03/21/2006 8:49:18 PM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

You didn't give the source. There's a reason for that.


43 posted on 03/21/2006 8:50:29 PM PST by AmishDude (Amishdude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: x5452
The website of the organization in question lists Yushchenko's membership as "Suspended." In other words, he is no longer a member of that group.

http://www.icps.kiev.ua/eng/about/supervisory_board.html

Furthermore, I did a search on the group on the web and searched their website and could find nothing about gays or abortion at all.

44 posted on 03/21/2006 9:11:15 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: AmishDude

The sources were all named in the articles I posted, what I didn't provide was a link which btw would not have gone to anti-war.com since that's not where I found the article.


45 posted on 03/22/2006 4:31:31 AM PST by x5452
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To: AmishDude

http://wwwa.house.gov/international_relations/108/pau120704.htm

Statement on "Ukraine’s Election: Next Steps"
House International Relations Committee
7 December, 2004
Ron Paul, M.D., Member of Congress

Mr. Chairman: President Bush said last week that, "Any election (in Ukraine), if there is one, ought to be free from any foreign influence." I agree with the President wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, it seems that several U.S. government agencies saw things differently and sent U.S. taxpayer dollars into Ukraine in attempt to influence the outcome.

We do not know exactly how many millions - or tens of millions - of dollars the United States government spent on the presidential election in Ukraine. We do know that much of that money was targeted to assist one particular candidate, and that through a series of cut-out non-governmental organizations (NGOs) - both American and Ukrainian - millions of dollars ended up in support of the presidential candidate, Viktor Yushchenko.

Let me add that I do not think we should be supporting either of the candidates. While I am certainly no supporter of Viktor Yushchenko, I am not a supporter of his opponent, Viktor Yanukovich, either. Simply, it is none of our business who the Ukrainian people select to be their president. And, if they feel the vote was not fair, it is up to them to work it out.

How did this one-sided US funding in Ukraine come about? While I am afraid we may have seen only the tip of the iceberg, one part that we do know thus far is that the U.S. government, through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), granted millions of dollars to the Poland-America-Ukraine Cooperation Initiative (PAUCI), which is administered by the U.S.-based Freedom House.

PAUCI then sent U.S. Government funds to numerous Ukrainian non-governmental organizations (NGOs). This would be bad enough and would in itself constitute meddling in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation. But, what is worse is that many of these grantee organizations in Ukraine are blatantly in favor of presidential candidate Viktor Yushchenko.

Consider the Ukrainian NGO International Centre for Policy Studies. It is an organization funded by the U.S. Government through PAUCI, but on its website you will find that the front page in the English section features a prominent orange ribbon, the symbol of Yushchenko’s party and movement. Reading further on, we discover that this NGO was founded by George Soros’s Open Society Institute. And further on we can see that Viktor Yushchenko himself sits on the advisory board!

And this NGO is not the only one the U.S. government funds that is openly supportive of Viktor Yushchenko. The Western Ukraine Regional Training Center, as another example, features a prominent USAID logo on one side of its website’s front page and an orange ribbon of the candidate Yushchenko’s party and movement on the other. By their proximity, the message to Ukrainian readers is clear: the U.S. government supports Yushchenko.

The Center for Political and Law Reforms, another Ukrainian NGO funded by the U.S. government, features a link at the top of its website’s front page to Viktor Yushchenko’s personal website. Yushchenko’s picture is at the top of this US government funded website.

This May, the Virginia-based private management consultancy Development Associates, Inc., was awarded $100 million by the US government "for strengthening national legislatures and other deliberative bodies worldwide." According to the organization’s website, several million dollars from this went to Ukraine in advance of the elections.

As I have said, this may only be the tip of the iceberg. There may be many more such organizations involved in this twisted tale.

It is clear that a significant amount of U.S. taxpayer dollars went to support one candidate in Ukraine. Recall how most of us felt when it became known that the Chinese government was trying to funnel campaign funding to a U.S. presidential campaign. This foreign funding of American elections is rightly illegal. Yet, it appears that that is exactly what we are doing abroad. What we do not know, however, is just how much U.S. government money was spent to influence the outcome of the Ukrainian election.

Dozens of organizations are granted funds under the PAUCI program alone, and this is only one of many programs that funneled dollars into Ukraine. We do not know how many millions of U.S. taxpayer dollars the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) sent to Ukraine through NED’s National Democratic Institute and International Republican Institute. Nor do we know how many other efforts, overt or covert, have been made to support one candidate over the other in Ukraine.

That is what I find so disturbing: there are so many cut-out organizations and sub-grantees that we have no idea how much U.S. government money was really spent on Ukraine, and most importantly how it was spent. Perhaps the several examples of blatant partisan support that we have been able to uncover are but an anomaly. I believe Congress and the American taxpayers have a right to know. I believe we urgently need an investigation by the Government Accounting Office into how much U.S. government money was spent in Ukraine and exactly how it was spent. I would hope very much for the support of Chairman Hyde, Chairman Lugar, Deputy Assistant Secretary Tefft, and my colleagues on the Committee in this request.

President Bush is absolutely correct: elections in Ukraine should be free of foreign influence. It is our job here and now to discover just how far we have violated this very important principle, and to cease any funding of political candidates or campaigns henceforth.



WHO IS RON PAUL?

Congressman Ron Paul of Texas enjoys a national reputation as the premier advocate for liberty in politics today. Dr. Paul is the leading spokesman in Washington for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies based on commodity-backed currency. He is known among both his colleagues in Congress and his constituents for his consistent voting record in the House of Representatives: Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. In the words of former Treasury Secretary William Simon, Dr. Paul is the "one exception to the Gang of 535" on Capitol Hill.

http://www.house.gov/paul/bio.shtml

Who is Ron Paul?

Ron Paul was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He graduated from Gettysburg College and the Duke University School of Medicine, before proudly serving as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force during the 1960s. He and his wife Carol moved to Texas in 1968, where he began his medical practice in Brazoria County. As a specialist in obstetrics/gynecology, Dr. Paul has delivered more than 4,000 babies! He and Carol, who reside in Surfside Beach, Texas, are the proud parents of five children and have seventeen grandchildren.

While serving in Congress during the late 1970s and early 1980s, Dr. Paul's limited-government ideals were not popular in Washington. He served on the House Banking committee, where he was a strong advocate for sound monetary policy and an outspoken critic of the Federal Reserve's inflationary measures. He also was a key member of the Gold Commission, advocating a return to a gold standard for our currency. He was an unwavering advocate of pro-life and pro-family values. Dr. Paul consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending, and regulation, and used his House seat to actively promote the return of government to its proper constitutional levels. In 1984, he voluntarily relinquished his House seat and returned to his medical practice.

Dr. Paul returned to Congress in 1997 to represent the 14th Congressional district of Texas. He serves on the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee, and the International Relations committee. On the Financial Services Committee, Rep. Paul serves as the vice-chairman of the Oversight and Investigations subcommittee. He continues to advocate a dramatic reduction in the size of the federal government and a return to constitutional principles.

Dr. Paul is the author of several books, including Challenge to Liberty; The Case for Gold; and A Republic, If You Can Keep It. He has been a distinguished counselor to the Ludwig von Mises Institute, and is widely quoted by scholars and writers in the fields of monetary policy, banking, and political economy. He has received many awards and honors during his career in Congress, from organizations such as the National Taxpayers Union, Citizens Against Government Waste, the Council for a Competitive Economy, Young Americans for Freedom, and countless others.

Dr. Paul's consistent voting record prompted one Congressman to comment that "Ron Paul personifies the Founding Fathers' ideal of the citizen-statesman. He makes it clear that his principles will never be compromised, and they never are." Another Congresswoman added that "There are few people in public life who, through thick and thin, rain or shine, stick to their principles. Ron Paul is one of those few."


46 posted on 03/22/2006 4:34:30 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

You are a liar. Post 15 has no source named. And I note, still, you don't name where exactly you found it.


47 posted on 03/22/2006 6:09:49 AM PST by AmishDude (Amishdude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: GarySpFc
What about my rights to watch something in Ukrainian? Apparently it doesn't matter. For Russian chauvinists not even Ukrainian subtitles are allowed. What type of African backward hole can Ukraine be if rights of majority, Ukrainian as their mother-language, are ignored. Yup, gotta accommodate those Russian-speakers.
48 posted on 03/22/2006 8:53:06 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: A. Pole

Shapk? I had no idea that there were Jews on Vulcan.


49 posted on 03/22/2006 8:54:59 AM PST by Redcloak (<--- Not always a people person.)
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To: RusIvan
The territories was populated by russians and eastern ukranians from start.

We're back to this again? Last time I thought I clearly made a case that Eastern+Southern Ukraine was populated by Ukrainian, Russian and other colonists. <- Written in order of importance. Colonists were 70% Ukainian, 20% Russians.

During Soviet times the ukranian commies got power in USSR and broke those terrories away from Russia.

Of course, because Russia was Empire- no territory of Ukraine. So Communists went with ethnic borders. But even then Communists screwed Ukrainians- Kuban, and half of Briansk and Voronezh regions are Ukrainian but they weren't included into Ukr. SSR.

50 posted on 03/22/2006 9:17:11 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: Mazepa; Romanov; x5452
What about my rights to watch something in Ukrainian? Apparently it doesn't matter. For Russian chauvinists not even Ukrainian subtitles are allowed. What type of African backward hole can Ukraine be if rights of majority, Ukrainian as their mother-language, are ignored. Yup, gotta accommodate those Russian-speakers.

Oh nonsense! You have every right to expect Ukrainians to speak Ukrainian. At the same time due to the large number of Russian speakers in your country, the Ukraine should make allowances for them. I dislike hearing Spanish spoken in America, but I understand why many American business and our government uses both languages in publicans. I have been in politics for many years, and it is very obvious to me the very reason the Ukraine is changing the names on their poll lists is to disqualify Russian speaking voters, and that is wrong. I would say the same thing if the shoe were on the other foot, but Yushenko and his supporters are into maintaining power at all costs. Soros and the Democrats have taught them well, but then they could care less about the fact they are trampling Democracy underfoot.
51 posted on 03/22/2006 9:19:33 AM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: Mazepa

But even then Communists screwed Ukrainians- Kuban, and half of Briansk and Voronezh regions are Ukrainian but they weren't included into Ukr. SSR.==

But Kharkov the ancient czar land where he allowed the ukranian peasants who running out thier polish landlords to land. Commies gave it to UrkSSR.
But it is NOT ukranian land at any sense. It is like Kosovo today. Albanians just squattered serb lands. So as ukranians in Kharkov.
In Voronezh ukranians are squatters but it this case commies had common sense enough not to pry them out of Russia.


52 posted on 03/22/2006 9:30:34 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: GarySpFc

So what exactly is your problem with Ukrainian subtitles?


53 posted on 03/22/2006 9:35:09 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: Mazepa; x5452; Romanov
BTW, my wife's father was Ukrainian and her mother Russian. In the home where she was raised they always spoke Ukrainian until after her mother passed away in 1999. Her father passed away in 1982. Nadya is fluent in both languages. I asked her which she preferred to speak and why. She immediately replied Russian, because it is far richer, more beautiful, and there are also far more resources available in Russian than Ukrainian.
54 posted on 03/22/2006 9:48:37 AM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: RusIvan

Barely anyone lived in Kharkiv region when Ukrainians settled, I don't know how can you call it Russian land. One Russian guy with a flag in the ground calling the land "Russian" is all it takes?

Further up north, former Chernihiv lands which were under Ukraine who knows how long (for example, Starodub. It had Cossack regiment during the Cossack era) but it got transfered to Russia by the communists.


55 posted on 03/22/2006 9:54:55 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: Mazepa
So Communists went with ethnic borders.

They did not. Are you saying that Crimea was a part of ethnic Ukraine?

56 posted on 03/22/2006 10:12:42 AM PST by A. Pole (Indian Americans should not be confused with American Indians. Same with American Africans.)
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To: A. Pole

no.
I assumed that Crimea is obvious and I didn't deem it necessary to point it out.


57 posted on 03/22/2006 10:25:38 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: GarySpFc
and it is very obvious to me the very reason the Ukraine is changing the names on their poll lists is to disqualify Russian speaking voters, and that is wrong.

It's not as clear. Both Yuschenko and Yanuovych voters have Russian lastnames and both will be just as affected.

58 posted on 03/22/2006 10:43:17 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: GarySpFc
I asked her which she preferred to speak and why. She immediately replied Russian, because it is far richer, more beautiful,

Perhaps your wife just has a great sense of humour- first, by marrying you :), and now by saying Russian language is more beautiful than Ukrainian. :)

59 posted on 03/22/2006 11:27:46 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: Mazepa
I assumed that Crimea is obvious and I didn't deem it necessary to point it out.

OK, so should the Russian be one of two official languages in Crimea? Or should Crimea be returned to Russia? Or should Muslims who conquered it for few centuries be brought back there?

60 posted on 03/22/2006 12:22:12 PM PST by A. Pole (Indian Americans should not be confused with American Indians. Same with American Africans.)
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