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He Was Born Skvortsov, on the Rolls He's Shpak
Moscow News ^ | Tuesday, March 21, 2006 | Oksana Yablokova

Posted on 03/21/2006 5:41:32 AM PST by A. Pole

CHERNOVTSY, Ukraine -- Thousands of Ukrainians with Russian last names may not recognize their names on voters' rolls when they try to vote in parliamentary elections Sunday.

Their names have been translated into Ukrainian.

Central Elections Commission officials are urging regional officials to recheck the rolls, and lawmakers have taken steps to allow voters to challenge the spelling of their names in court. But opposition politicians are warning that many voters in the country's east and south could end up disenfranchised.

Taras Chernovil, the deputy campaign chief of the pro-Moscow Party of the Regions and a leading candidate, accused local election officials of intentionally making mistakes while translating voters' Russian names into Ukrainian.

Chernovil, a current lawmaker and No. 4 candidate on the Party of the Regions list, said mistakes had included changing Medvedev to Vedmidev and Skvortsov to Shpak. Skvorets and shpak mean "starling" in their respective languages.

The translations will make it impossible for people to vote because the names in their passports will not correspond with the ones on voters' rolls, he said in a recent interview while campaigning in Chernovtsy, in western Ukraine.

He said local election officials were following orders from the Central Elections Commission in Kiev.

Commission officials could not be reached for comment. But Tatyana Makridi, a spokeswoman for the ruling bloc, Our Ukraine, said regional and local administrations in the eastern and southern regions were responsible for the voters' rolls and any mistakes on them. "These are authorities who were elected under the previous regime before the 2004 [presidential] election," Makridi said.

She refused to comment on why it was necessary to translate Russian voters' names into Ukrainian, saying it was a question for the Central Elections Commission.

Critics say the effort to translate the rolls into Ukrainian is part of a so-called Ukrainization campaign aimed at strengthening national identity. The drive took off in earnest after President Viktor Yushchenko's Western-leaning team came to power in 2004 during the Orange Revolution. It has encountered fierce resistance in the eastern and southern regions, where most people speak Russian.

As part of the drive, parliament last year passed legislation that ordered television stations to run Russian-language shows and movies in Ukrainian. Russian-language schools have been closed, prompting a wave of protests last summer and fall in the Crimean Peninsula. Party of the Regions leader Viktor Yanukovych addressed a pro-Russian language rally of about 10,000 supporters in the Crimean city of Simferopol on Sunday.

Vasily Stoyakin, director of the Center for Political Marketing in Kiev, said translations of voters' rolls and the obligatory translation of Russian programs on television shows that the Ukrainization campaign has gotten out of hand. "This is a foolish campaign that can be characterized as one of Yushchenko's failures," Stoyakin said.

But Igor Popov, head of the Ukrainian Voters' Committee, a nongovernmental group, suggested that the translation mistakes on the rolls had nothing to do with the campaign. "This is an issue of the elections being poorly organized. These are not translations by people. The names were translated by a computer program," Popov said, adding that blocks of names had also fallen out of the rolls due to a failure by the computer program.

He estimated that 5 percent to 10 percent of all rolls were either incomplete or contained mistakes. "I personally had to go verify and correct my wife's name three times," he said.

Election officials have acknowledged problems with the rolls but insisted that they were working to correct them.

Yaroslav Davydovich, head of the Central Elections Commission, urged local officials earlier this month to check the rolls without waiting for voters to complain. "It is their responsibility," Davydovich said, Ukrainian news agencies reported.

Yushchenko has called on voters to check their names on voters' rolls in advance.

Also this month, the parliament approved amendments to the federal election law that will give voters the right to appeal mistakes made in their names in court up to three hours before polling stations close on election day.

Chernovil was skeptical that the legislation would help people vote on Sunday. "In this situation, courts won't be able to handle all the complaints," he said.

He also complained about entire apartment blocks and streets being excluded from voters' lists.

His Party of the Regions is expected to lead Sunday's elections with at least 27 percent of the vote, according to the latest poll released by Razumkov Center, a polling agency. Yushchenko's Our Ukraine is expected to place second, with 17 percent, while a bloc led by former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko is expected to receive 13 percent.

However, it appears that the Party of the Regions will need need a coalition ally to form a majority in the new parliament, which under a 2004 constitutional reform will receive unprecedented powers, including the right to name the prime minister and most of the Cabinet.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: democracy; elections; eu; fraud; orange; reforms; revolution; russia; russian; ukraine; voting; west
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To: x5452
Yushchenko's disfigurement closely resembles a form of herpes infection called rosacea. As Dr. Chris Rangel, an internal medicine specialist in Texas, points out: "Rosacea can be explosive, and extremely disfiguring--and it can be triggered by even one alcoholic drink.

So it must be Putin's agents who gave Yushchenko herpes and then they forced him to drink alcohol.

21 posted on 03/21/2006 9:49:41 AM PST by A. Pole (Chimpanzees and men share 95 percent of their DNA. Species is a social construct!)
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To: Mazepa
Russians can't learn Ukrainian and don't like seeing Ukrainian translation subtitles- boohoo. I'm all in tears.

Which goes to prove you never really wanted democracy in the Ukraine. A true believe in democracy would fight for everyone to have an equal vote. The view that only some should vote is every bit as corrupt as ideas from either Stalin or Hitler.
22 posted on 03/21/2006 10:19:06 AM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: GarySpFc
Hey, I have an idea! Why don't the people learn the language of the county in whose election they want to vote?

Better yet, if they don't want to bother learning the language, and prefer to speak the language of some foreign country, why don't they go to that country and don't come back?!

The days when Moscow forcibly Russianized all those nations conquered by Soviet Russia and forced them all to speak Russian against their will are over! The EVIL EMPIRE is no more, Thank God!

23 posted on 03/21/2006 11:34:11 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: x5452
Well, well our favorite antiwar.commie is here to post garbage conspiracy theories from writers for his favorite anti-semitic antiAmerican website: antiwar.com

Do you ever tire of being exposed as a pinko communist sypathizing anti-American lunatic?

24 posted on 03/21/2006 11:40:51 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The days when Moscow forcibly Russianized all those nations conquered by Soviet Russia and forced them all to speak Russian against their will are over! ==

You don't know history. Accually the wholle south-east of Ukraine was called Novorossia (New Russia). Those territory was conquered from nomadic Tatars in 18 century by Ekaterina the Great then Peter The First.

During Soviet times the ukranian commies got power in USSR and broke those terrories away from Russia. The territories was populated by russians and eastern ukranians from start.
SO those western ukrnazies as they called them in Ukraine accually are alien on south-east.

It is same if yanks came south and began to command. Same thing.


25 posted on 03/21/2006 11:43:26 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What writers would those be?

Oh Libertarian leaning republicans from Texas?


26 posted on 03/21/2006 12:48:33 PM PST by x5452
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Better yet they should cecede and pound the traitors and foreigners out of their borders. Its Soros evil empire you support and you know it.


27 posted on 03/21/2006 12:50:29 PM PST by x5452
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Better yet, if they don't want to bother learning the language, and prefer to speak the language of some foreign country, why don't they go to that country and don't come back?!

These Russians or Russian speaking people did not immigrate there. It was Soviets who drew the border of Soviet "Ukrainian" Republic including several millions of ethnic Russians.

If the Soviets included most of Ukrainians in the Belarus Republic would you demand that Ukrainians learn Belorussian or get disfranchised?

28 posted on 03/21/2006 1:15:54 PM PST by A. Pole (Chimpanzees and men share 95 percent of their DNA. Species is a social construct!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I agree the evil empire is over, and thank God for that. However, only a snake would deny people the right to vote.


29 posted on 03/21/2006 1:54:45 PM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: GarySpFc

What are you talking about? what do Ukrainian SUBTITLES (forget about Ukrainian voiceovers- but it's coming, lol ) have to do with human rights violations and democracy?

Russian reaction to Ukrainian subtitles is nothing but ukrainophobia. I suspect if they had decided to have subtitles in Chinese rather than Ukrainian, brothers Russians would have less of a problem.


30 posted on 03/21/2006 4:22:54 PM PST by Mazepa
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To: Mazepa

Nah, you simply do not care about your fellow Ukrainians.


31 posted on 03/21/2006 4:33:43 PM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: Monterrosa-24

I don't understand the "translatability" of a name. It's what you're CALLED: It's not a descriptive with a meaning.


32 posted on 03/21/2006 4:36:01 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: x5452
Chad Nagle, whose "counterpunch.org" article you posted in Post 15 is also a writer for antiwar.com. Along with this link to this original antiwar.com article and the anti-Iraq war Ron Paul stuff that's a lot of antiwar.com BS, but what was funniest was when you posted this article from World Socialist Website. We only post commie garbage like that round here for laughs, tovarisch.

You just prove that goosestepping Putinistas will post any and all anti-American lies as long as they think it serves the nation they pledge their allegiance to: Russia.

33 posted on 03/21/2006 4:47:33 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: x5452
"President Yushchenko was the first head of state I called after my inaugural address. I told him that the Orange Revolution was a powerful example -- an example of democracy for people around the world. I was impressed, I know millions of my fellow citizens were impressed by the brave citizens who gathered in Kiev's Independence Square and rightly demanded that their voices be heard. It's an impressive moment, Mr. President, and an important moment. I've oftentimes told our fellow citizens that the world is changing, freedom is spreading -- and I use Ukraine as an example, along with Afghanistan and Iraq, about a changing world. A world, by the way, changing for the better, because we believe free societies will be peaceful societies." - George W. Bush
34 posted on 03/21/2006 4:51:25 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I'll take that for the dodging the question that it is.


35 posted on 03/21/2006 5:54:48 PM PST by x5452
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To: Tailgunner Joe

By you're definition Ron Paul is a writer for anti-war.com.


36 posted on 03/21/2006 5:55:24 PM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

There is a reason antiwar.com and lewrockwell.com are not appropriate for posting as articles on FR. And I note that Joe had to point out the source of the second article. I suppose you felt that you would reveal yourself if you posted the source.


37 posted on 03/21/2006 6:06:17 PM PST by AmishDude (Amishdude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: x5452
You didn't ask me a question, you slandered me. I support U.S. allies in Ukraine just like President Bush. You support the agenda of Crimean Muslims just like Soros does.
38 posted on 03/21/2006 6:06:22 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

yes you support aledged US allies who pay for abortions and gay and reproductive rights legislation, you're record is clear on this.


39 posted on 03/21/2006 8:22:07 PM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

Yes, that's why Pope John Paul II supported Yushchenko too, because the Catholic Church adores gays and abortion.


40 posted on 03/21/2006 8:34:04 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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