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Will illegal aliens get an exemption?
1 posted on 03/20/2006 11:02:54 AM PST by JZelle
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It will cost more in the long run with all the warrants being issued and people thrown in jail sitting out fines they cant/wont pay.


2 posted on 03/20/2006 11:05:00 AM PST by Husker24
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People who abuse the roads are the ones who should pay for them,..

Then they should be free of charge and taxes to all good drivers....LOL yah, right

3 posted on 03/20/2006 11:07:09 AM PST by Woodstock
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This is ridiculous. Why don't they quit stealing the taxpayers money. That should balance the budget.


4 posted on 03/20/2006 11:07:53 AM PST by freekitty
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As an alternative, how about the state paying a reward to drivers with exceptionally good records? Why do I sense that this is unlikely to be done?
5 posted on 03/20/2006 11:08:54 AM PST by Grut
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I wasn't aware that we actually pulled over illegals in the Commonwealth. At least, we don't seem to be doing that on Route 13 over on the Eastern Shore, and I definitely don't see it here in Toothless Fairfax County... ;)

While I'm all for punishing bad drivers, I fail to see where this will actually solve anything. The drivers who are most commonly "bad" tend to be from low-income backgrounds. Does the General Assembly intend to write an exception for "poor" bad drivers? If so, how does allowing these people to bypass punishment help anything?

If, on the other hand, we enforce this program with 100% efficiency, we stand a chance of pushing drivers into driving without a license. With THAT problem as bad as it is over on the Eastern Shore, do we REALLY need to make it worse?

How about instead of punishing people for getting tickets, WE PROPERLY TEST AND TRAIN THEM BEFORE ISSUING A LICENSE???? Would that not be the more "fair" solution to our "bad driver" problem (since we're too cowardly to arrest and deport the illegals that acerbate the problem)?

Of course, with the Commonwealth finishing the budget year YET AGAIN with a billion-plus dollar surplus, do we REALLY need to raise ANY taxes OR fees at ALL?!

6 posted on 03/20/2006 11:09:25 AM PST by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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Don't they already fine you for the things that get you points?


7 posted on 03/20/2006 11:13:32 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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"People who abuse the roads are the ones who should pay for them," said Delegate David B. Albo, Fairfax County Republican.

Remember, this is a REPUBLICAN saying this. Of course, he's a FAIRFAX republican.

Anyway, the statement is senseless. First, having points on your driving record does not really indicate "abuse" of the roads, just means you got caught doing something the state doesn't want you to do, like maybe rolling through a stop sign when there are no people there at all, or driving 75 on a highway built for 80 but which has a speed limit of 55.

Second, why should people who "abuse" the highway have to pay for their use? This suggests that the "abuse" of the highway somehow makes them more expensive. But that is not the kind of "abuse" we are talking about. SUV's "ABUSE" the highways more than lighter cars, maybe we should tax THEM more. We do in fact tax high-weight vehicles more.

Third, the people with the most points have thier licenses suspended, which means they can't drive on the roads at all. Why should THEY have to pay for the roads?

This is probably the compromise being sought to get out of the budget impasse. Despite my attempt above, nobody is really going to fight to save violators money. They are a "freebie" from a tax perspective. The house doesn't want ANY tax increases, but even the "no-new-taxes" crowd probably will hold their noses and look away if the only new tax is this "sin tax", so it's probably safe.

12 posted on 03/20/2006 11:38:20 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Should abusive diners pay more for their meals and good patrons pay less? If alcoholism is a disease; is this not singling out those who are already victims?

Personally think Liberals should pay higher taxes. First, because they want to. . .and secondly, because they are the source of most of our cultural, social and political problems for which we are all dearly paying for. . .

18 posted on 03/20/2006 11:46:27 AM PST by cricket
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How do you define "bad driver"?


21 posted on 03/20/2006 12:00:41 PM PST by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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Oh. So "court fees and costs" that double the cost of a freaking traffic ticket aren't enough. Now we're going to screw speeders on the installment plan.

Kaine and his RINO buddies need to get their hands out of our pockets.

And no, my driving record's not bad enough to get hit by this. Although, I still want to know how an Amelia County deputy managed to spot that I didn't have my front plate mounted (the joys of moving up here from a state that doesn't have no front plates--no mounting screws for the front bumper), figured out that it was a Virginia car, covered the 40 yards across the field to the highway, and ran me down on US 360 at 60 mph...inside of 90 seconds. At least it's not a points violation, but I can't wait to see how much the various "fees" jack the fine up to.

}:-)4


25 posted on 03/20/2006 12:53:40 PM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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How about getting the roads right the first time, then maybe they won't cost so much? The Mercury Blvd./I-64 interchange has been a disaster from day one. An entire stretch had to be rebuilt because no one - NO ONE - caught the fact that it hadn't been crowned to state specs.


26 posted on 03/20/2006 12:56:47 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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Something tells me that a lot of people in Virginia
are suddenly going to be labeled "Bad Drivers".


28 posted on 03/20/2006 12:59:08 PM PST by indthkr
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So, they're getting punished twice (once with the ticket and a second time with this new fine)?


29 posted on 03/20/2006 12:59:49 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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So..., this system of higher than normal fines is being implemented to help raise money for new roads and improvement of existing roads, etc.?

It would be interesting, I think, to examine when they (those that voted this crappola into existence) last gave themselves a pay raise and that raise's percentage rate. This along with, of course, the other perks they enjoy at the expense of the tax payers. If nothing else, it would be beneficial data to have at voting time.

36 posted on 08/14/2007 6:50:21 AM PDT by softengine (Hypocrisy plays on both sides of the fence.......but no one will admit it.)
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