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GETTING THERE FROM HERE (Steyn alert)
Steyn online ^ | 3/20/06 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/20/2006 10:53:16 AM PST by voletti

We may have to change the name of this column to “Unhappy Warrior”, or “Reluctant Conscript”, or “Impending Deserter”. The last few weeks have made me consider not the possibility that we might lose this thing (which I’ve always weighed) but that we might lose it more easily than even the gloomiest of us thought. The “Cartoon Jihad” might have been explicitly devised as a scientific experiment to provoke the greatest degree of infidel capitulation for the most footling pretext.

By “we might lose”, I mean “the good guys” – and I define that term expansively. There are plenty of good guys in Australia and Poland and Iraq and even Pakistan. And I’m a little unnerved at the number of readers who seem to think the rest of the world can go hang but America will endure as a lonely candle of liberty in the new dark ages. Think that one through: a totalitarian China, a crumbling Russia, an insane Middle East, a disease-ridden Africa, a civil war-torn Eurabia – and a country that can’t even enforce its borders against two relatively benign states will somehow be able to hold the entire planet at bay? Dream on, “realists”.

Still, in the wake of the cartoon crisis and the Hamas victory, several correspondents have argued to me that the Bush Doctrine is a crock: How can liberty save the Muslim world when Muslims are jeopardizing liberty in Europe?

Well, they’re not contradictory positions. In the Middle East, it may well be that, as the gnarled old Yankees tell tourists, you can’t get there from here. But I’d argue there’s a sporting chance of being able to get at least part-way there from the here and now of the present Muslim world.

By contrast, Europe is getting there from here in the one-way express lane, and it’s not going to like where it ends up. About six months after 9/11, I went on a grand tour of the Continent’s Muslim ghettoes, and then flew on to the Middle East. The Muslims I met in Europe were, almost to a man, more alienated and angrier than the ones back in Araby. Don’t take my word for it. It was a Hamburg cell that pulled off 9/11, a British subject who was the shoebomber, a Montreal welfare recipient who tried to blow up LAX, a London School of Economics graduate who had Daniel Pearl executed… At one level, that’s just plain operational sense: al-Qa’eda obviously has no shortage of crazy Waziristani goatherds it can recruit but they tend to stand out at the check-in counter at United. A western-educated engineering graduate doesn’t.

But that in itself doesn’t explain why quite so many European Muslims are hot for jihad. In the Muslim ghettoes of the Continent east meets west in a particularly malign form that fuses the worst aspects of both. You can see it in the tattoed pierced Pakistani skinhead gangs swaggering through the streets of northern England: into rap and drugs and all the rest, they’re observant Muslims mainly in their attitude to women and infidels. The college-educated jihadi who could be pulling down six-figure salaries instead of Manhattan skyscrapers are in some senses merely the middle-class variation on this phenomenon.

Europe’s ability to solve the problem is hampered by the fact that its professed “multiculturalism” is in reality mostly bicultural. You have hitherto homogeneous Scandinavian societies whose cities have become 40% Muslim in the space of a generation. Imagine colonial New England when it was still the Mayflower crowd and one day they woke up and noticed that all the Aldens and Allertons, Billingtons and Bradfords were in their 50s and 60s and all the young guys were called Ahmed and Mohammed. That’s what’s happened in Rotterdam and Malmo.

Whatever the virtues of multiculturalism, bicultural societies are the most unstable in the world, whether relatively benignly so (Fiji) or genocidally (Rwanda). The problem Europe faces is that Bosnia’s demographic profile is now the model for the entire continent. All those Bush Doctrine naysayers who argue that Iraq is an artificial entity that can never be a functioning state ought to take a look at the Netherlands. You think Kurds and Arabs, Sunni and Shia are incompatible? What do you call a jurisdiction split between post-Christian secular gay potheads and anti-whoring anti-sodomites Islamists? If Kurdistan’s an awkward fit in Iraq, how well does Pornostan fit in the Islamic Republic of Holland? Europe’s problems don’t nullify the Bush Doctrine so much as present a more urgent case for it. Indeed, given that the Palestinian Authority is funding-wise the largest EU welfare slum, even the Hamas victory can be seen as more typical of Euro-Muslim alienation than Arab psychoses.

The hyperpower has to be engaged with the world, if only because splendid isolation is rarely seen as such by others. What was the biggest single factor in the radicalization of young British Muslims? The then Conservative Government’s conclusion in the 1990s that it had no dog in the Balkans junkyard. As Osama bin Laden put it, “The British are responsible for destroying the Caliphate system. They are the ones who created the Palestinian problem. They are the ones who created the Kashmiri problem. They are the ones who put the arms embargo on the Muslims of Bosnia so that two million Muslims were killed.”

How’d a list of imperial interventions wind up with that bit of non-imperial non-intervention? The point is that for great powers detachment from the affairs of the world is not an option: even-handedness by Washington will be received as a form of one-handedness by the time its effects are felt in Wackistan or Basketkhazia. In other words, isolation doesn’t travel. National Review, March 13th 2006


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1 posted on 03/20/2006 10:53:18 AM PST by voletti
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To: voletti
You can see it in the tattoed pierced Pakistani skinhead gangs swaggering through the streets of northern England: into rap and drugs and all the rest, they’re observant Muslims mainly in their attitude to women and infidels.

Now that is something I have to see...

2 posted on 03/20/2006 10:57:26 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Tax-chick

bttt


3 posted on 03/20/2006 10:57:34 AM PST by Tax-chick (Welcome to my nightmare. It takes some getting used to!)
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To: 2banana

It's the truth. These urban gangs in the UK and France aren't pious Muslims. They pick and choose the parts of Islam that make them feel powerful--dominance of women, hatred of "infidels," etc.--and they fuse it with the arrogance of youth and weird spinoffs of the bitches-and-hos urban culture. It's the worst of all worlds, and it's an explosive combination. Without their Islam, they'd just be another bunch of street thugs...and under the caliphate they so fervently say they wish for, half of them would probably be dead or maimed inside of just a few years, for "vice."

}:-)4


4 posted on 03/20/2006 11:05:22 AM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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To: 2banana

I think that is probably the height of depravity right there. An islamic skinhead drug-dealing gangsta rappers from Pakistan! Wow. That's... just... ... Just damn!


5 posted on 03/20/2006 11:06:39 AM PST by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: farlander

This is just multiculturalism in action. The perfect combination of (the worst of) two cultures seemlessly melded.


6 posted on 03/20/2006 11:09:12 AM PST by Daralundy
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...a totalitarian China, a crumbling Russia, an insane Middle East, a disease-ridden Africa, a civil war-torn Eurabia – and a country that can’t even enforce its borders against two relatively benign states will somehow be able to hold the entire planet at bay?

A terrifying picture, and one that's all too likely within the next 50 years.

7 posted on 03/20/2006 11:14:40 AM PST by American Quilter (Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. - Isaac Asimov)
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To: Moose4

Best description of the European islamofascists that I've read. Excellent post.


8 posted on 03/20/2006 11:16:44 AM PST by American Quilter (Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. - Isaac Asimov)
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To: Moose4
You're looking at storm troopers right there. They don't have to be devout - death in jihad is enough to guarantee paradise. Remember Atta and the boys whooping up in strip clubs before their mission? It's a pretty good deal if you're into ultra-violence.

Churchill said it - you can fight these guys now while you're strong or later when you may not have a chance of victory. People who hope they're going to morph into a kinder, gentler product on their own are going to get eaten.

9 posted on 03/20/2006 11:19:33 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Moose4
"They pick and choose the parts of Islam that make them feel powerful..."

Cafeteria Muslims!

10 posted on 03/20/2006 11:24:52 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: Billthedrill
Churchill said it - you can fight these guys now while you're strong or later when you may not have a chance of victory. People who hope they're going to morph into a kinder, gentler product on their own are going to get eaten.

well stated. I fear for the future of Western Civilization. The vile Leftists and the evil MSM are making it very difficult to unleash Hell upon the Islamo-fascists. I have a feeling it will get very nasty in the coming years. We will have to utterly destroy the left in this Republic, in order to save Liberty and Western Civilization. Make no mistake, it will be a bloody future for the West. Islam and the left are Satan's followers.

11 posted on 03/20/2006 11:29:02 AM PST by liberty2004
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To: voletti
And I’m a little unnerved at the number of readers who seem to think the rest of the world can go hang but America will endure as a lonely candle of liberty in the new dark ages. Think that one through: a totalitarian China, a crumbling Russia, an insane Middle East, a disease-ridden Africa, a civil war-torn Eurabia – and a country that can’t even enforce its borders against two relatively benign states will somehow be able to hold the entire planet at bay? Dream on, “realists”.

Has Mark been lurking on the ports threads?

12 posted on 03/20/2006 11:31:48 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Billthedrill

You nailed it. These guys, the French "yoots" and the Finsbury Park mosque drones, don't need to be Islamic scholars, and they don't need to be true believers. All they need are some "community leaders" or "moderate imams" behind them, pushing buttons and offering "spiritual guidance" and herding the cats. Not every member of the Sturmabteilung knew the Nazi party platform inside and out--they heard the slogans and liked what they heard. Plus they got to bust some heads.

Do I think there's some sort of massive billion-strong Islamic conspiracy to take over the world? No. Do I think there's one that's maybe, a few *thousand* strong, but those few thousand are in leadership and influence positions and can manipulate both the innocent and not-so-innocent Muslim to do their bidding? Oh yes. Indeed.

}:-)4


13 posted on 03/20/2006 11:31:53 AM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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To: Moose4
Without their Islam, they'd just be another bunch of street thugs...and under the caliphate they so fervently say they wish for, half of them would probably be dead or maimed inside of just a few years, for "vice."

Yep. It didn't take long at all for Hitler to purge and abolish the SA. Once real fascists actually gain power they no longer have any use for street thugs.

14 posted on 03/20/2006 11:33:31 AM PST by elmer fudd
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To: Pokey78

Steyn ping!


15 posted on 03/20/2006 11:38:01 AM PST by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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marking


16 posted on 03/20/2006 11:42:44 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Moose4

bttt


17 posted on 03/20/2006 11:43:00 AM PST by txhurl
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To: Moose4

East London is the 'hood. Took a wrong turn and got to tour East London unintentionally. Had just come from Dubai a few days previously. Much nicer in Dubai.


18 posted on 03/20/2006 11:43:38 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: liberty2004

I agree. The future look dim, especially in those countries where the natives are replicating like Italy at 1.3 per woman. If the Muslims won't become real Europeans, what will happen when they become the majority and take political control!


19 posted on 03/20/2006 12:03:21 PM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: voletti

"Think that one through: a totalitarian China, a crumbling Russia, an insane Middle East, a disease-ridden Africa, a civil war-torn Eurabia – and a country that can’t even enforce its borders against two relatively benign states will somehow be able to hold the entire planet at bay?"

Whew... strong article


20 posted on 03/20/2006 12:07:02 PM PST by stand4somethin
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