GETTING THERE FROM HERE (Steyn alert)

Steyn online ^ | 3/20/06 | Mark Steyn

[2banana]

You can see it in the tattoed pierced Pakistani skinhead gangs swaggering through the streets of northern England: into rap and drugs and all the rest, they’re observant Muslims mainly in their attitude to women and infidels.

Now that is something I have to see...

[Tax-chick]

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[Moose4]

It's the truth. These urban gangs in the UK and France aren't pious Muslims. They pick and choose the parts of Islam that make them feel powerful--dominance of women, hatred of "infidels," etc.--and they fuse it with the arrogance of youth and weird spinoffs of the bitches-and-hos urban culture. It's the worst of all worlds, and it's an explosive combination. Without their Islam, they'd just be another bunch of street thugs...and under the caliphate they so fervently say they wish for, half of them would probably be dead or maimed inside of just a few years, for "vice."

}:-)4

[farlander]

I think that is probably the height of depravity right there. An islamic skinhead drug-dealing gangsta rappers from Pakistan! Wow. That's... just... ... Just damn!

[Daralundy]

This is just multiculturalism in action. The perfect combination of (the worst of) two cultures seemlessly melded.

[American Quilter]

...a totalitarian China, a crumbling Russia, an insane Middle East, a disease-ridden Africa, a civil war-torn Eurabia – and a country that can’t even enforce its borders against two relatively benign states will somehow be able to hold the entire planet at bay?

A terrifying picture, and one that's all too likely within the next 50 years.

[American Quilter]

Best description of the European islamofascists that I've read. Excellent post.

[Billthedrill]

You're looking at storm troopers right there. They don't have to be devout - death in jihad is enough to guarantee paradise. Remember Atta and the boys whooping up in strip clubs before their mission? It's a pretty good deal if you're into ultra-violence.

Churchill said it - you can fight these guys now while you're strong or later when you may not have a chance of victory. People who hope they're going to morph into a kinder, gentler product on their own are going to get eaten.

[LZ_Bayonet]

"They pick and choose the parts of Islam that make them feel powerful..."

Cafeteria Muslims!

[liberty2004]

Churchill said it - you can fight these guys now while you're strong or later when you may not have a chance of victory. People who hope they're going to morph into a kinder, gentler product on their own are going to get eaten.

well stated. I fear for the future of Western Civilization. The vile Leftists and the evil MSM are making it very difficult to unleash Hell upon the Islamo-fascists. I have a feeling it will get very nasty in the coming years. We will have to utterly destroy the left in this Republic, in order to save Liberty and Western Civilization. Make no mistake, it will be a bloody future for the West. Islam and the left are Satan's followers.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

And I’m a little unnerved at the number of readers who seem to think the rest of the world can go hang but America will endure as a lonely candle of liberty in the new dark ages. Think that one through: a totalitarian China, a crumbling Russia, an insane Middle East, a disease-ridden Africa, a civil war-torn Eurabia – and a country that can’t even enforce its borders against two relatively benign states will somehow be able to hold the entire planet at bay? Dream on, “realists”.

Has Mark been lurking on the ports threads?

[Moose4]

You nailed it. These guys, the French "yoots" and the Finsbury Park mosque drones, don't need to be Islamic scholars, and they don't need to be true believers. All they need are some "community leaders" or "moderate imams" behind them, pushing buttons and offering "spiritual guidance" and herding the cats. Not every member of the Sturmabteilung knew the Nazi party platform inside and out--they heard the slogans and liked what they heard. Plus they got to bust some heads.

Do I think there's some sort of massive billion-strong Islamic conspiracy to take over the world? No. Do I think there's one that's maybe, a few *thousand* strong, but those few thousand are in leadership and influence positions and can manipulate both the innocent and not-so-innocent Muslim to do their bidding? Oh yes. Indeed.

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[elmer fudd]

Without their Islam, they'd just be another bunch of street thugs...and under the caliphate they so fervently say they wish for, half of them would probably be dead or maimed inside of just a few years, for "vice."

Yep. It didn't take long at all for Hitler to purge and abolish the SA. Once real fascists actually gain power they no longer have any use for street thugs.

[secret garden]

Steyn ping!

[eureka!]

marking

[txhurl]

bttt

[Cannoneer No. 4]

East London is the 'hood. Took a wrong turn and got to tour East London unintentionally. Had just come from Dubai a few days previously. Much nicer in Dubai.

[GeorgefromGeorgia]

I agree. The future look dim, especially in those countries where the natives are replicating like Italy at 1.3 per woman. If the Muslims won't become real Europeans, what will happen when they become the majority and take political control!

[stand4somethin]

"Think that one through: a totalitarian China, a crumbling Russia, an insane Middle East, a disease-ridden Africa, a civil war-torn Eurabia – and a country that can’t even enforce its borders against two relatively benign states will somehow be able to hold the entire planet at bay?"

Whew... strong article