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To: spintreebob
The immigrants are just plain too proud to take something for free from non-family.

Hmmmm...yet the welfare rolls, the emergency rooms (for non emergency medical treatment) are full of illegal/legal immigrants. Not to mention the free schooling (by way of non payment of municipal/state taxes by illegal immigrants. Seems to me that many immigrants are surely not too proud to 'take' these services.

12 posted on 03/20/2006 6:06:26 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen

re: non payment of municipal/state taxes by illegal immigrants

In IL the demand for housing, and purchase of homes by immigrants (legal and illegal) is the #1 reason property values skyrocket. Thus property assessments are high and local government (especially IL schools) have a windfall from the rising property assessments.

In IL, free use of emergency rooms is a mixed bag. Many immigrants do "home birth" with the extended family of experienced women doing quite well. Of those who go to the hospital, some are pre-arranged appointments for delivery thru a family doctor. Some arrive at the Emergency room with no warning. Some pay. Some don't.

It used to be that cash was king with medical providers (because it never appeared in income taxes ? ) It used to be that immigrants would pay cash up front and get a steep discount because the medical providers did not need to do any paperwork.

Now, the government penalizes medical consumers for paying cash. Providers are prohibited from providing the common sense discounts. The result is that immigrant cash customers are billed much more than insured customers for the same procedure .. as required by law.

But it is WE AND OUR WHITE LIBERAL friends who have created this problem. The immigrants (legal or illegal) did not create our crazy health care system. They just try to navigate it.

My (ex-illegal) wife sells baby clothing to immigrants (legal and illegal) and thus I have extensive contact with them and discussions of their baby stories Fri-Sun which I mostly spend around her business. I've seen them forgo winter clothing for themselves and their kids so they can make payments on their hospital bill.


40 posted on 03/20/2006 10:44:33 AM PST by spintreebob
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Seems to me that many immigrants are surely not too proud to 'take' these services.

They're not too proud in California - illegal immigration costs us 10 billion dollars every year, and that's not even counting the jobs they have taken from blue collar workers by working cheap and working for non-taxed cash.

61 posted on 03/20/2006 5:47:52 PM PST by janetgreen (The White House fiddles while America is invaded)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
The immigrants are just plain too proud to take something for free from non-family.

Hmmmm...yet the welfare rolls, the emergency rooms (for non emergency medical treatment) are full of illegal/legal immigrants. Not to mention the free schooling (by way of non payment of municipal/state taxes by illegal immigrants. Seems to me that many immigrants are surely not too proud to 'take' these services.

There is some truth in both observations, and I'm not sure what it means. I have occasion to visit local soup kitchens as well as local emergency rooms. I rarely see Mexicans at the soup kitchens, but they fill the emergency rooms.

63 posted on 03/20/2006 8:41:42 PM PST by TexasKamaAina
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