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Let's say that you are not an intellectual giant, in fact, you barely squeak through high school. Maybe not even that. Forget about race for now, just look at the eduacation aspect. You aren't one of those folks who are going to start their own business, you are just a real "average joe. 30 years ago, you could certainly find work in a factory of some sort. Folks with that 'gearhead' mindset would end up in some sort of machine shop or something involving steel. Not quite up to that level? Well, somebody needs to assemble Barbie dolls, right?

Ah, but this is the 21st century! There are good jobs if you know technology and you job hasn't been outsourced to India yet. There are plenty of jobs working at Wal-Mart, but they pay like the bumper sticker, "Low Wages...Always".

"Okay, what about jobs for the remanining what, 30% of society who don't have software development kung fu skills, but who are certainly more skilled than a Wal-Mart clerk? In our enlightened society that has embraced the "Cheapest price rules" mindset, we've shipped away all the jobs for which the "average joes" were perfectly suited. Auto mechanic? Not any more, with the complexity of cars these days. Construction? Sure, but the constructin field goes through some pretty nasty boom/bust cycles. There just aren't a lot of average jobs anymore!"

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Excellent post. Here's the real hidden problem. I'll use myself as an example here. I went to a tech (trade) High school. There were blacks, whites and Hispanics that went there. Upon graduation.... if we took up carpentry...or Machine shop...or "Heating / HVAC ..."electro-Mech" or any other trade... we could basically graduate and walk into a pretty darned good job. I chose Auto Body repair and within 3 years of graduating I was making more than my father. At 22 years old I was making $600.00+ a week...and this is back in 1984....not too bad for someone with no college education. When I look around now and see many businesses (blue collar) in a 30 mile radius....most of my fellow classmates went on to be very successful business owners. I know of several plumbers who make over $250,000.00 a year. That's no joke!
The normal chain of occurrences is that when these business owners need new help...all they do is stop off at any local trade school and ask the teachers there for the best and the brightest.

All this has changed now with the influx of illegals. One USED to be able to make a decent living and or have a GOOD job upon graduating from carpentry in a trade school. Now the illegals have driven down the wages by so much there is no incentive to be a carpenter or a framer here in CT. If you choose that line of work....you should also be aware that you'll have to live in a house with 15 other dudes and work for 8 bucks an hour.
Now....if you're a legit business owner here in CT....you simply can not AFFORD to go to a trade school and hire one of the students. You have to put them on the books. This crappy situation pits legit business owners against scumbag tax cheat employers. It has become a race to the bottom. How does this effect black kids?

Well as I had mentioned before.....a large percentage of my graduating class were blacks. Now they've been sold down the river (once again) by this bull$hit line from GWB that we "need" (illegal) immigrants. Go talk to the black (and white and Hispanic) youth graduating from trade schools. They can not find employment when they graduate from a trade they've trained for 4 years. If you are a legit business owner you will find yourself underbid time and time again by these scumbags who pay no FICA, or SS or any other insurance for their illegals.

GWB and his ilk are complicit in this. There is no job stability in the blue collar workforce anymore and we are importing cheap (near slave) labor to the tune of 10,000 to 15,000 persons a week through our insecure borders.

This illegal mess is just another way that people (all races) of lower economic means are getting shafted by their own government. I don't think our own government should pit the lower economic groups of Americans against illegals for the sake of "cheap labor". That hardly seems "American".
63 posted on 03/20/2006 5:44:50 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
"Well as I had mentioned before.....a large percentage of my graduating class were blacks. Now they've been sold down the river (once again) by this bull$hit line from GWB that we "need" (illegal) immigrants. Go talk to the black (and white and Hispanic) youth graduating from trade schools. They can not find employment when they graduate from a trade they've trained for 4 years"

. you are ignoring the statistics that point to the fact, that most black men end up dropping out or never attend higher education.

Stop blaming society and start blaming an MTV rap culture that promotes gangster rappers shooting each other form moving cars and glorifies stealing and selling drugs instead of honest work. The issue is not about employment statistics or we would be looking at a list of black men out of work. What we see is black men in prison, committing crimes or failing to finish and graduate from high school.

This is more about a failure in the culture of the black man to provide adequate role models and decent conservative moral values.

67 posted on 03/20/2006 6:40:54 AM PST by Kelly_2000 ( Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: taxed2death

Please see my #69. I meant it for you.

Need more coffee.


74 posted on 03/20/2006 7:08:57 AM PST by Roccus
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To: taxed2death

I received my California general contractor license in 1979 and your observations match what I've seen there.
(I now live in Oregon of course)


94 posted on 03/20/2006 7:53:43 AM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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