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Very interesing article, and very sad. Black boys are often the hardest to teach, too, even in elementary school. They just see no connection whatsoever between school and their lives. And, very few of them have fathers or male relatives in or near the home.
1 posted on 03/19/2006 9:13:07 PM PST by summer
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Bump.....


56 posted on 03/20/2006 4:16:50 AM PST by tcrlaf
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...a subculture that glorifies swagger over work...

And promoted and glorified by the guilt-ridden white liberal elite.

57 posted on 03/20/2006 4:18:23 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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And for these stunning results? Thank you, Liberalism.


59 posted on 03/20/2006 4:56:02 AM PST by USArmySpouse
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It's not cool to get an education.

It's not cool to get a legit job.

It's not cool to speak the language of corporate America.

It's not cool to be a responsible parent......


I could go on and on.....


62 posted on 03/20/2006 5:23:00 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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They're just 'keepin' it real.'


68 posted on 03/20/2006 6:42:09 AM PST by dfwgator
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They just see no connection whatsoever between school and their lives. And, very few of them have fathers or male relatives in or near the home.

Thanks to Lyndon'w GREAT SOCIETY....which essentially destroyed most black families.

70 posted on 03/20/2006 6:55:03 AM PST by pop-gun (A dumbed down population is more dangerous to our country than terrorism.)
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I live in Iowa where we have a large influx of blacks from Chicago. I work with many black women from this area and they are fine employees pulling double shifts, really trying to make a better life.
downside..all of them and I mean ALL of them have boyfriends/husbands who do not work which is why they must pull the double shifts. Only three of the men even care for the children while the woman works. The other women actualy pay babysitters so their "man" can go hang out!!


71 posted on 03/20/2006 7:02:26 AM PST by ccwoman
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Whitey's fault - always has been, always will be.


72 posted on 03/20/2006 7:03:18 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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Here's a solution for the people in this situation:

1. Finish high school
2. Do not have children before the age of 20
3. Do not have children before you get married

These points (hope I got them right) were developed by someone else - cannot remember his name. But they will keep anyone out of poverty, essentially. And probably out of prison.


76 posted on 03/20/2006 7:12:59 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
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If these Universities really were interested in finding the answer to this problem, they would would do a study of family and working life of black prior to the 1960s then compare it today. Prior to the 1960s, the rate of birth out of wedlock for blacks and whites were similar. There was a thriving black middle class in many of the big cities.

The Civil Right laws of the 1960s were correct, and long over due, but they had some unintended consequences.

If you are driving along a lonely road, and you are coming up to an intersection with a stop sign but you can see both left and right for miles, and there is no traffic coming, do you stop?

Most do. Why? Because we obey laws and rules even when no one is watching. How do we get like that? Simple, we were taught from a young age. First by our families, right and wrong behaviour, then in school, and later in life.

There are many laws, and many social rules that we obey without even thinking about it. We were "programmed" to do certain things.

But what happens when we do not receives such feed back from our family, and later society. What happens when we discover we can act out with little or no consequences?

Without self restraint, which is a virtue that is taught, we are not born with it, quite the contrary, it is our instinct to do what pleases us.

Along with the Civil Rights movement came a companion, the idea that every action by a white person towards a black was racist in nature. The unintended consequences of this movement was that any critism of a black person by a white person made the white person a racist. Not wishing to be labeled a racist, critism was muted, and then ended.

This was soon expanded so that any negative act against a black was percieved as rascist. It has gotten to the point today that whites can not even discuss the issues of blacks in America without being labeled racist.

And so the problems between Blacks and Whites can not be resolved because there is only one safe mode of dialog, and that a one way conversation, blacks towards white.


If we can not have an open and public discussion, if misdeeds or bad behaviour can not be pointed out, then there is no hope for a solution.

The advise I would have for a young black man in America today is the same I would give to a young white (yellow, red, green or purple) man, it is the same and not based on color.

1. Stay in school
2. Learn to speak well
3. Learn to read and write english
4. The golden rule (treat others as you wish to be treated)
5. Be willing to do any job you can get, work hard, and you will be rewarded
6. Wait until you are married to have children


80 posted on 03/20/2006 7:23:40 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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Focusing more closely than ever on the life patterns of young black men, the new studies, by experts at Columbia, Princeton, Harvard and other institutions, show that the huge pool of poorly educated black men are becoming ever more disconnected from the mainstream society,...

Hollywood's not hiring???

But seriously, this is a problem for black Americans. They continue to be unable to reproduce their numbers. Even with immigration from Africa, the number of black Americans continues to decline.

84 posted on 03/20/2006 7:28:06 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Terrible schools, absent parents, racism, the decline in blue collar jobs and a subculture that glorifies swagger over work have all been cited as causes of the deepening ruin of black youths. ..

And horrible spending habits. From Detroit's Digital Voice Black Spending Habits

There's more to the article.

85 posted on 03/20/2006 7:29:47 AM PST by Drew68
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¶Incarceration rates climbed in the 1990's and reached historic highs in the past few years....

Brought to you by America's first black President!!!!!!!

86 posted on 03/20/2006 7:30:35 AM PST by ErieGeno
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Public assistance programs need to be repealed and charter school/ school compitition needs to be enacted. Too bad that the political party that receives 90% of black votes works to block all of these reforms...


88 posted on 03/20/2006 7:35:16 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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Among black dropouts in their late 20's, more are in prison on a given day — 34 percent — than are working — 30 percent ......

I have properties in gentrifying neighborhoods located near ghettos.

I remember the first thing I noticed when driving through a ghetto early in the morning; it was the lack of rush hour. Furthermore, most of the early-morning drivers were women.

It seems that the ghetto society has decided that women are supposed to work and go to church, while men are supposed to play and commit crimes.

I know that's a generalization, but that's the impression that an outsider will get if he has to live or work in a ghetto temporarily.

[Full disclosure. Those generalities only apply to California and Florida, where I've lived most of my life. In constrast, during my visits to Georgia, I've noticed many black middle-class men who were well educated, soft spoken, and hard working.]

89 posted on 03/20/2006 7:37:12 AM PST by george wythe
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Some black men have it harder. They are the ones who make wrong choices. The Block men who make the right choices, to stay in school, act responsibly, marry, to pay bills, show up on time for work, etc., do as well as any average American.

Bad choices lead to bad consequences, you know it from your own life experiences. Stop feeling sorry for the losers. In most cases they bring it on themselves. They will always be with us, black and white.
96 posted on 03/20/2006 8:25:56 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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Some black men have it harder. They are the ones who make wrong choices. The Black men who make the right choices, to stay in school, act responsibly, marry, to pay bills, show up on time for work, etc., do as well as any average American.

Bad choices lead to bad consequences, you know it from your own life experiences. Stop feeling sorry for the losers. In most cases they bring it on themselves. They will always be with us, black and white.
97 posted on 03/20/2006 8:26:35 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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Some black men have it harder. They are the ones who make wrong choices. The Bleck men who make the right choices, to stay in school, act responsibily, marry, to pay bills, show up on time for work, etc., do as well as any average American.

Bad choices lead to bad consequences, you know it from your own life experiences. Stop feeling sorry for the losers. In most cases they bring it on themselves. They will always be with us, black and white.


98 posted on 03/20/2006 8:26:56 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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Some black men have it harder. They are the ones who make wrong choices. Black men who make the right choices, to stay in school, act responsibily, marry, to pay bills, show up on time for work, etc., do as well as any average American.

Bad choices lead to bad consequences, you know it from your own life experiences. Stop feeling sorry for the losers. In most cases they bring it on themselves. They will always be with us, black and white.


99 posted on 03/20/2006 8:27:30 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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Some black men have it harder. They are the ones who make wrong choices. Black men who make the right choices, to stay in school, act responsibily, marry, to pay bills, show up on time for work, etc., do as well as any average American.

Bad choices lead to bad consequences, you know it from your own life experiences. Stop feeling sorry for the losers. In most cases they bring it on themselves. They will always be with us, black and white.


100 posted on 03/20/2006 8:28:06 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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