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Is bar set too high for schools?
Sacramento Bee ^ | 3/19/6 | Jim Sanders

Posted on 03/19/2006 6:19:56 PM PST by SmithL

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To: gondramB

I'm disappointed to see FL is 36, but they were 39 last year so I guess that's a little progress.


21 posted on 03/19/2006 6:39:19 PM PST by stm (You can fix a lot of thing s, but you can't fix stupid)
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To: stm
Here's the latest state rankings:

Those rankings are suspect. Out of 21 criteria, only 6 are based on student proficiency.

22 posted on 03/19/2006 6:40:28 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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23 posted on 03/19/2006 6:44:29 PM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: paul51
Nea has an interesting report, you can find it here:

http://www.nea.org/edstats/images/04rankings.pdf
24 posted on 03/19/2006 6:44:44 PM PST by stm (You can fix a lot of thing s, but you can't fix stupid)
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To: stm
This is the self actualizing method that they use.

Do they rank states according to student's collective GPA?

of course not! that might make sense!

This is how they came to their conclusions:

METHODOLOGY--This fourth Smartest State designation is awarded based on 21 factors chosen from Morgan Quitno’s annual reference book, Education State Rankings, 2005-2006.
Featuring four new factors, this year’s award de-emphasizes spending for public schools and instead measures states based on student achievement, positive outcomes and personal attention from teachers.
(As a result, rankings for this year’s Smartest State Award are not directly comparable to last year’s rankings.)
To calculate the Smartest State rankings, the 21 factors were divided into two groups: those that are “negative” for which a high ranking would be considered bad for a state, and those that are “positive” for which a high ranking would be considered good.
Rates for each of the 21 factors were processed through a formula that measures how a state compares to the national average for a given category.
The positive and negative nature of each factor was taken into account as part of the formula. Once these computations were made, the factors then were assigned equal weights.
These weighted scores then were added together to determine a state’s final score (“SUM” on the table above.)
This way, states are assessed based on how they stack up against the national average.
The end result is that the farther below the national average a state’s education ranking is, the lower (and less smart) it ranks.
The farther above the national average, the higher (and smarter) a state ranks.
This same methodology is used for our annual Healthiest State, Safest and Most Dangerous State and Safest/Dangerous City Awards.

Ooookay.

25 posted on 03/19/2006 6:45:15 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: stm
School Rankings
26 posted on 03/19/2006 6:45:55 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()......The Media is not Mainstream, stop calling them that........()
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To: paul51

bingo.


27 posted on 03/19/2006 6:46:54 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bordergal

My kids are already out of California schools.

My oldest daughter was threatening to her second grade teacher. Aside from teaching my daughter how to correct the teacher without causing offense, I also had to kowtow to the teacher at the parent teacher conference. "Oh, I am so glad that my daughter has you for a teacher. (lie) My father was his school's shop steward, just like you (true except for the just like you part). I was afraid that ____ would have a new teacher that didn't have much experience."

After that, my daughter could do no wrong, and was almost a co-teacher.


28 posted on 03/19/2006 6:49:35 PM PST by Donald Meaker (You don't drive a car looking through the rear view mirror, but you do practice politics that way.)
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To: SmithL

How well do California students perform on the NAEP?

It looks as though quite a few states have very low standards for "proficiency".


29 posted on 03/19/2006 7:05:41 PM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: SmithL

How many of those not meeting the standard are illegals? Costing the taxpayers and legal students in many ways.


30 posted on 03/19/2006 7:07:19 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: SmithL

What's the problem?

If the schools can't meet the standards, just ignore the standards!

Heck, the Kansas City, MO public school district lost its state accreditation some 4 or 6 years ago... what's the big deal? Nobody seems to care!

As long as the schools keep on getting the money... That's all that's important.

Although I wonder how quickly the schools would improve if state funding was cut off while the schools were not accredtited.

Mark


31 posted on 03/19/2006 7:09:32 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: SmithL
Image hosted by Photobucket.com the little darlings will stay just as stooopid as you let them...
32 posted on 03/19/2006 7:11:46 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: SmithL

It's time to bring competiion to the public school monopoly.


33 posted on 03/19/2006 7:14:18 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

If you want blatant grade inflation, look at the ivy leagues or most private schools. of course people who go there will say otherwise, but its sadly true. A friend of mine attended an ivy league and then when he came back for the summer attended the local UC for summer school. He was shocked that the average grade in the class was a C. He said thered be holy hell if the average grade in one of his classes wasnt a B or an A.


34 posted on 03/19/2006 7:18:17 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: stm
Nea has an interesting report, you can find it here:

Sorry. I'm not interested in anything the NEA has to say. As far as I'm concerned, they are part of the problem.

35 posted on 03/19/2006 7:30:55 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51

That's the same thing my wife (a HS chemistry teacher) says.


36 posted on 03/19/2006 7:32:10 PM PST by stm (You can fix a lot of thing s, but you can't fix stupid)
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37 posted on 03/19/2006 7:45:42 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Porterville

Yep!!!! San Jose Unified closed my kids' school last year, and it was a great school: medium sized, good test scores, active parents, music, science, and a cool outdoor nature trail.

Now, my girls are in an awful school. Science is considered an enrichment activity. It was a middle school that they converted to an elementary school. It's big, and there are tons of discipline problems.

I'm looking at homeschooling my kids next year.


38 posted on 03/19/2006 8:01:29 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: SDGOP

I went to Texas A&M. It was known to be a flunk out school.

However, Rice is supposed to be a better school, but everyone that goes there gets good grades.

When I worked, I always liked working with people from good public universities.


39 posted on 03/19/2006 8:06:13 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: SmithL

Everybody LIMBO!!!! How low can you go?


40 posted on 03/19/2006 8:13:45 PM PST by EricT. ("I reject your reality and substitute my own."-Adam Savage)
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