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To: HitmanLV

The guys who get rejected after this routine aren't being rejected because they are perceived as 'real men,' though that may be a comforting thought. They come across as weak or needy men.

I don't see this as a "routine." If you really do love someone, you want them to be happy. You want to be around them.

What I see as the "routine" is the "treat them like dirt" deal so that they think you are a strong, masculine person.

I think my point is well made though by the emphasis that you put on the alleged weak stuff. That is how it comes across to a woman, pretty much period. They want a cave man.

parsy, who refuses to pretend to be mean just to get some loving.


484 posted on 03/21/2006 12:25:29 PM PST by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: parsifal

If you do love someone, of course you want them to be happy. And there is no reason to treat a woman like dirt, either, in order to be masculine.

A woman most likely than not can't be sexually excited by a man who she percieves as weak or needy. If a man presents himself as weak or needy

There is simply no need to be a caveman or a jerk. There is a whole range of conduct between being needy and being jerky. The best place for a man to be is between those poles, and that's where most women want a man to be, also.

Refusing to act like a jerk is fine, but if a man conducts himself in a way that a woman will percived (rightly or wrongly) as weak or needy, she will rightly reject him. Most women will reject him. That's a good thing.

The dirty truth is that most women don't reject men on shallow reasons, but on substantive ones.


485 posted on 03/21/2006 12:30:26 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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