Posted on 03/18/2006 7:03:00 PM PST by goldstategop
Couldn't you consider "marital prostitution" be done by any woman who marries a man who brings home the bread while she stays home and doesn't work? Ha ha!
We men want a woman who will give us a bath, wash our clothes, be our chosen prostitute, and be a child care provider to the children, and make good meals!
Blaming it on what men want is too easy; women set their own standards more often than not.
"I think there is a cultural tradition in recent Ashkenazim Jewish life that promotes women who challenge..."
In Judaism it is important for the woman to speak up and challenge anything the man may be doing wrong. But Ashkenazim women do take to an extreme. The term JAP (Jewish American Princess) relates to this kind of extreme behavior.
If a Jewish woman (or any other woman) can challenge but do it in a feminine way then I all for it.
indeed....i don't like them barefoot and pregnant
....unless it's summer..lol
I restrict the term "prostitution" to the case where a woman marries exclusively for money, and has no actual emotional attachment for the guy, and would leave him immediately if he lost his money
Women. are. like. cars? This does not speak well for you, my child. If you wanted to say that cars are like women, there might be some poetic license that could support it, but this? No. This is all wrong!
I'm married to a (non-observing) Ashkenazim. She's not a JAP. Then again, if she were, I would not have married or stayed married to her
She won't be non-Jewish if I marry her. I can't marry outside of the faith.
What do you call 5,000 JAPs converging on Bloomingdales in NYC for a sale?
Yidlock! :)
There's lots of interesting neurological implications surrounding the "Golden Ratio". There's an interesting article here, but I can't vouch for the scientific correctness of its assertions
I'll take your word for it. Like I said before, I don't have any first hand dealings with Jewish men or women.
My own personal take on the Men/Women dating issue is that culture is directing marriage and relationships more then faith. We are a culture of what's best for me, and I need it now.
Of course, I'm not immune to it, but I am glad, in alot of ways, that I got married young (barely 21). When my wife and I talk about all the infidelity around us, I remark on how it's hard for me to miss, what I never had. Meaning, I was never with anyone, other than my wife. Does, that mean I am never tempted? No, but the desire to keep what is unique between us, special, is much harder to break.
Marriage and relationships are a creation of God, and if we don't follow his owners manual, then we are looking for some heart aches. In this way the article reflects that the Jewish faith is as much affected by materialism as any other American faith. Even in Christian relationships, people are more concerned over physical attributes and material gain, then asking, "Is this person my spiritual mate for life?"
I can tell you from my own life, that as a young-un, I was primarily looking at the outside package. However, I now recognize that my wife is so much more then that. I can't imagine living a multiple partner life for 10 or more years, and then trying to settle down with someone who has to fit a precise shopping list.
Marriage is about changing togather into a separate entity. That's why the Bible says, "two shall become one."
Well, anyway, that's my two cent rant.
Sincerely
my take on this in general...
From the beginning of time...
In order to propulgate the race, men are most interested in "booty"...
Women want security.
Thus men want looks, women want money.
Simple? Yes, but I think this in the meat of the coconut...
I mentioned earlier on this thread, I have no idea why folks embrace the dichotomy that goodlooking women are necessarily shallow and more average looking women are somehow necessarily more substantial.
A woman can be good looking and have strong character. It's not nearly as uncommon as a lot of folks think. The bias against good looking women is remarkable - and it makes no sense.
Right-o! Men give women the physical security by guarding the nation/house and working to bring home the bread.
Women give men the relationship via looks, "booty", children, meals, other domestic chores, and her positive words.
Ok.
What I meant by control issues, is that both Jewish males and females seem to want submisive partners. You, seem to be happy that your goy girlfriend is submissive and let's you be the boss. However, you look down on Jewish women who apparently wants the same thing.
As a Christian, the wife is to be submissive to the husband, but that in no way means less then. I don't know what the Jewish faith requires of the wife, but I suspect it would be similar.
I'm not trying to "dis" your culture, just trying to make an observation.
Sincerely
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