Posted on 03/18/2006 9:38:27 AM PST by UncleSamUSA
March 18, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani will soon make a pilgrimage to the politically potent state of Iowa - the first stop in the presidential nominating process - fueling further speculation that he's eyeing a 2008 bid, The Post has learned.
The official reason for Giuliani's trip is to star at a May 1 "Get Motivated" leadership seminar that's already being advertised in The Des Moines Register.
But the trip to Iowa, site of the first presidential nominating caucus, has much bigger symbolic value for Giuliani. "It tells us, at a minimum, that he's looking to keep his options open - and, at a maximum, [that] he's looking to interview people to run his Iowa operation," said Republican strategist Rich Galen, who helped run Iowa for President Bush's dad.
deborah.orin@nypost.com
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Other way around maybe, the press would love to see McCain as veep, since he won't win the nomination.
I don't see McPain taking a backseat to anyone .
Who? Rudy or Romney? Or both? I didn't hear Romney on those issues. Just economics, taxes, and nat'l security. Rump riding is pretty much a state issue, isn't it? I think judges will continue to be a big issue. That one's very important, and I don't know Romney's stand.
You just don’t understand. For a very large number of Republicans character doesn’t matter any more than core conservative principles matter. All that matters to that group is someone be a Republican who they think can win.
:) a red state sweep in '08?
Your "vision" thing may be helped with this little "eye-opener" if you have the guts to read it.
http://rightwingnews.com/
Please be ready to say to McCain with sincerety:
"Bye Bye McCain"!
Romney was to whom I was referring. Same is generally true of Giuliani, but his stances on national defense and crime are at least acceptable.
Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani, 107th Mayor
Opening Remarks to the N.A.R.A.L. "Champions of Choice" Lunch
The Yale Club, Thursday, April 5th, 2001
As Delivered
Thank you very much for inviting me to say a few words of welcome. This event shows that people of different political parties and different political thinking can unite in support of choice. In doing so, we are upholding a distinguished tradition that began in our city starting with the work of Margaret Sanger and the movement for reproductive freedom that began in the early decades of the 20th century.
As a Republican who supports a woman's right to choose, it is particularly an honor to be here. And I would like to explain, just for one moment, why I believe being in favor of choice is consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. In fact, it might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices. Republicans stand for lower taxation because we believe that people can make better choices with their money than the government will make for them, and that ultimately frees the economy and produces more political freedom. We believe that, yes, government is important, but that the private sector is actually more important in solving our problems.
So it is consistent with that philosophy to believe that in the most personal and difficult choices that a woman has to make with regard to a pregnancy, those choices should be made based on that person's conscience and that person's way of thinking and feeling. The government shouldn't dictate that choice by making it a crime or making it illegal.
I think that's actually a much more consistent position. Many Republicans support that position, but you don't hear that as often. For example, in a recent poll by American Viewpoint, 65 percent of Republicans supported changing the plank in the Republican platform that calls for a constitutional ban on abortion. That's 6.5 out of every 10 Republicans. And over 80 percent of Republicans believe that the decision with regard to an abortion should be made by a woman, her doctor, and her family rather than dictated by the government.
[Applause]
In any case, I just wanted you to know that many of my fellow Republicans stand with you on this issue. So I thank you, I thank NARAL for taking the lead in establishing freedom of choice for all of us, and as the Mayor of New York City, I thank you for being here in New York City.
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http://www.nyc.gov/html/rwg/html/2001b/champlunch.html
He and McCain are the only Republicans who transcend the base.
Which is why he or McCain can be elected President in 2008 and no other Republican currently stands a chance. And not just against Hillary.
Which begs the question. Why would a Democrat cross over in 2008, when their own candidate would suffice?
More importantly, why would a Republican vote for McCain or Giuliani in 2008, when these two are so liberal, they could run as Democrats?
And what matters to many is proven accomplishments and not mere rhetoric.
Some want to hear the right words on Abortion (and other "social" issues) and they have their candidate even though every Republican candidate since Roe has been anti Abortion and changed zip.
Nothing but nothing, when electing a President, transcends foreign and security affairs in these perilous times.
The character of all the candidates is subjective. Accomplishment in few rare cases is obvious and striking.
Don't you think it's a good thing Bush was in there to appoint two conservatives to the Supreme Court? We only need one more vote on the bench, and then Roe likely will be overturned.
Pro-life Republicans aren't about to risk that prospect on a liberal pro-abort for president in 2008.
Neither McCain nor Guilani are Liberals. You and I may not like several of their views here and there but I bet you agree with both more then 70% of the time.
The citizens of the US are not divided into Liberals and Conservatives. That is only a game for us political junkies on a site such as this. Most Americans pick and choose their issues.
Both McCain and Guilani appeal to that vast majority of the American people. and that's a good thing. Appeal to the middle and govern correctly- as Guilani did in NYC.
I believe Guilani would have appointed Justices identical to Roberts and Alito.
George Allen is what the liberals fear, they can "sit and spin", because that is who they will face in Nov. 2008.
The liberal puke dreams of Rudy or McCain running are just that, a (crack) pipe dream!
I invite you to read Giuliani's speech in #48 to NARAL.
NO Republican with such views can garner enough support to win the primaries. Should he make it through, enough Republicans will sit home in 2008 to cost him the election.
McCain is liberal enough to cause John Kerry to eye him as a possible running mate in 2004. That says a lot.
Supporting either for the 2008 GOP ticket defies all pragmatism.
The part of me that keeps wanting to jump on the Allen bandwagon always leads me back to the fact that aside from Kennedy, Senators don't get elected President.
Let's not delude ourselves.
There is 0% chance Giuliani would appoint such to the bench as president. He wants to protect abortion, not ban it.
Giuliani is no different than a Democrat.
Sorry, but I don't believe Abortion views are the only test to whether one is a "Conservative" or a Liberal. And frankly, having Libertarian Conservative leanings myself, I can understand his point.
I've written it before and I'll write it again.
If either McCain or Guliani is the Republican nominee, as many Conservatives as sit home, they still get elected.
If neither is the nominee because the true believers keep them from the nomination, as things stand today, and I don't expect them to get any better for Republicans, a Democrat is the next President.
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