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Rudy's '08 Hint In Iowa
New York Post ^ | March 18, 2006 | Deborah Orin

Posted on 03/18/2006 9:38:27 AM PST by UncleSamUSA

March 18, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani will soon make a pilgrimage to the politically potent state of Iowa - the first stop in the presidential nominating process - fueling further speculation that he's eyeing a 2008 bid, The Post has learned.

The official reason for Giuliani's trip is to star at a May 1 "Get Motivated" leadership seminar that's already being advertised in The Des Moines Register.

But the trip to Iowa, site of the first presidential nominating caucus, has much bigger symbolic value for Giuliani. "It tells us, at a minimum, that he's looking to keep his options open - and, at a maximum, [that] he's looking to interview people to run his Iowa operation," said Republican strategist Rich Galen, who helped run Iowa for President Bush's dad.

deborah.orin@nypost.com

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; babykiller; corrupt; elections; giuliani; giuliani2008; goombah; iowa2008; rino; rudygiuliani
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To: Jim Noble

Okay, you got me.

Rudy is a strong law enforcement socialist.

Except for when it comes to the illegal immigration invasion...


181 posted on 03/19/2006 1:29:53 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("After all I've done for you people!!!" -John McCain)
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To: Blackirish
***The reality is that Roe V Wade is soon to be overturned and sent back to the States...where it should be.***

If such a thing happened, Schumer & Boxer will bring up the Freedom of Choice Act, a federal bill designed to prevent the states from imposing any sensible restrictions on abortion. They tried to bring it up for a vote in late 1994, but the GOP take over Congress. If Roe is overturned, you can bet the Moonbats in Congress will revive the bill again. Rudy can make in roads with conservative groups by pledging to veto such a measure.
182 posted on 03/19/2006 1:45:54 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: EternalVigilance


so because al sharpton hates rudy means we should vote for him?

LOL....such a shame for what passes for logic these days.


183 posted on 03/19/2006 1:51:25 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: Kuksool
Rudy can make in roads with conservative groups by pledging to veto such a measure.

Unfortunately, such a gesture would be insincere. Giuliani has already pledged support for the co-called woman's "right to choose." He is as pro-choice as any Democrat. Any attempt by him to gain points with conservatives on this issue would be nothing more than deceitful pandering.


184 posted on 03/19/2006 3:07:17 PM PST by Gelato
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To: Gelato
Don't you understand that the most important right today is that of murdering your own child? And also expecting everyone else's child to support you in your old age in the style of a king and queen.

Today's American liberal,whatever the party label,is a selfish ,conceited @#$#@$$$.

185 posted on 03/19/2006 3:27:01 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: Sabramerican
How about this analogy -

"Alexei is bleeding badly and may die", proclaimed Nicholas and Alexandra, "our only hope, indeed our very salvation lies with one man, he who is called 'Rasputin'."


I do though have a question, Czar Sabra...How do you come to the conclusion that George Allen could not win the Presidency or defeat Hillary Clinton?

186 posted on 03/19/2006 4:07:24 PM PST by jla
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To: jla

Unless I struck a persuasive nerve I can not understand why my opinion would get you calling me Czar and referencing Rasputin.

That's all it is, my opinion.

I have spent the thread stating why I don't believe almost any Republican will win in 2008, not just Allen.

If you want my opinion of Allen specifically, he is a run of the mill able politician with the usual accomplishments of people who have held similar office.

I find him bland and have been unimpressed with his performance on interview shows. He is the typical VP candidate.

Also, I am less certain Hillary will be the Democrat nominee but do believe only an extraordinary political star will beat whoever the Democrats do nominate.

On the other hand if they go nuts and nominate Al Sharpton, any Republican wins.


187 posted on 03/19/2006 6:35:12 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: FRONTLINER
Romney gay adoption bill faces tough opposition in Legislature

Score one. just came across this.

188 posted on 03/19/2006 8:55:41 PM PST by quantim (A gullible public is the best friend of a weak politician.)
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To: quantim

Thanks for posting that .We will see more Conservative positions from Romney as he breaks away from Mass . Romney could be more Conservative than Reagan , but to some people around here it wouldn't matter because he's from Mass . I can't see the logic in that line of thinking.


189 posted on 03/19/2006 9:23:05 PM PST by FRONTLINER ( Out with the RINO's , Defeat Mike DeWhine in the primary ! Libby THE LIBERAL Dole is inept !)
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To: Sabramerican
Thanks for that vague reply.
I'm convinced that up to half of those supporting a former mayor for the Presidency do so with ulterior motives in mind.
190 posted on 03/20/2006 6:41:10 AM PST by jla
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To: markomalley
You know, I really hate to see this. Rudy is, all in all, a very charismatic figure. But he is hardly a conservative. A choice between him and any Dem who would get the nomination (Hill or whoever) would leave me no choice for whom to vote. (i.e., I couldn't in clear conscience vote for either) If he runs, he'll have to be exposed for his flaws. That will remove a true icon, a hero of the 9/11 tragedy.

I agree with you. I would hate to see Rudy run also, in spite of the fact he would be great on terrorism. He's PRO-CHOICE and is NOT AGAINST PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTION. His candidates to the Supreme Court would logically reflect his pro-choice views. Bush should have given him a post in his administration, like Homeland Security. Don't run Rudy.

191 posted on 03/20/2006 6:53:07 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (There's always a reason to choose life.)
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To: Gelato

LoL, Guiliani would have beaten John Kerry perhaps by an even greater margin.

The election is won through leadership and Kerry had none. Guiliani does and you will be unpleasantly surprised by the primaries.

My question is a very simple one? WHO from the GOP can beat him? I simply don't see ANYone capable of doing so (since my man George Allen has shot his foot off) except one even more disdained by the self-appointed spokesmen of "conservativism", Johnny Boy McCain.


192 posted on 03/20/2006 11:15:47 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Gelato

BTW I do NOT believe that ProLife voters are more fanatical than ProAborts. There has been no "litmus test" on our side remotely as stringent as that of the Left.


193 posted on 03/20/2006 11:17:48 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Gelato

My opinion on the race is not a reflection of a desire to elect Rudy. It is based upon the perceived strengths and weaknesses of the alternatives. He and McCain appear far stronger than any others.

I do believe him to be the strongest leader of the pack which generally translates into who wins. (I am assuming that Cheney will not run nor Rumsfeld.)


194 posted on 03/20/2006 11:21:26 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Blackirish

My prediction is that the Far Right will do all it can to split the Party if Guiliani is nominated. And my belief is that it is encouraged surreptitiously by the Far Left. A good example of how the latter can lead the former into mindlessly running over the cliff is the Ports' deal.

That was a tremendous disaster for the party which has shown itself to be in the grip of the Far Right which does not have a clue about the way the world works.


195 posted on 03/20/2006 11:24:48 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Gelato

The greatest Pro Life issue is bringing the war on terrorists and the war in Iraq to a successful conclusion. Everything else is small potatoes. Without a victory in those fights the Left will become so dominant that any value you have will be under greater pressure than anything you have seen so far.

If the anti-abortion movement does not understand this it will become the enemy of the REAL prolife needs.


196 posted on 03/20/2006 11:29:54 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Reagan Man

While your thinking is exactly what the Left loves to hear the reality is that the exodus of the Ultra Right will be overcompensated by the attraction of the less conservative.

Reagan would never have agreed with your sentiments. He made a point to attract those from the other party who could be reached by reason. Your branch would rather spit in their faces and insult them because they do not oppose ALL abortion.


197 posted on 03/20/2006 11:35:13 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Kuksool

Southerners know the Rudi of 911 and the GOP Convention. They will not hold NY political necessities against him.

He will get up and start telling stories of his day prosecuting the mob, etc. and the folks will be eating out of his hand. Southerners love few better than a good storyteller.


198 posted on 03/20/2006 11:38:17 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: jla

Allen's inability to see through Cindy Sheehans nonsense means he is not ready for Prime Time. Unfortunate but that is a fact.


199 posted on 03/20/2006 11:41:46 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
>>>>Reagan would never have agreed with your sentiments.

Baloney!

First off, I don't pay attention to the liberal leftwing on my decisions for which candidate I will support for President. So far, the only possible candidate I've rule out for 2008 is the liberal, Rudi Giuliani. I am not part of any ultra right wing, as you say. I'm a mainstream conservative. Mainstream conservatives decide the outcomes of GOP presidential primaries. Mainstream conservatives are pro-military, pro-life, pro-family, pro-2nd amendment and pro-limited govt. Mainstream conservatives oppose gay rights, gay marriage, envirowackoism and illegal immigration. I'm telling you, mainstream conservatives will never vote for Rudi Giuliani to be the GOP candidate for Prez in 2008.

Ronald Reagan preached it in his time and Rush Limbaugh preaches it today. When the Republican Party sticks to advancing a conservative agenda for America, the GOP wins elections. When The Republican Party doesn't advance a conservative agenda for America, the GOP loses elections. 1992 and 1996 are prime examples. Bush41 ran from the Reagan agenda in 1992 and lost. Dole strayed away from the conservative agenda in 1996, and he lost.

From 1976 to 1980 Ronald Reagan built a conservative coalition of religious conservatives and fiscal conservatives into a Republican Party that has a conservative core to its party platform. You need to read this speech by Reagan at the 4th Annual CPAC Convention: A New Republican Party

200 posted on 03/20/2006 12:20:25 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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