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To: Crackingham

We admit something like a million and a half immigrants per year.

This is a policy that has been imposed without any of us ever being asked. Is this a good number? The right number? Ten times the right number?

No one has ever talked about it publicly, and no one has asked the citizen his opinion on the matter, in fact if you bring up the subject most politicians will run from the room as if he were on fire.

And if you bring up the subject in public, the unemployables in the news media will accuse you of racism, and shut down all possibility of a reasoned discussion.

You have to wonder, what is it they are afraid of?

Its about time we had this national discussion, and its about time ordinary citizens were acknowledged as having a stake in the matter.

In the meantime, though, before we really get wound up talking about it, I insist that we secure the border. Its high time we talk about immigration, but lets talk about it right after we secure the border.


15 posted on 03/17/2006 3:18:16 PM PST by marron
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To: marron

"This is a policy that has been imposed without any of us ever being asked. Is this a good number? The right number? Ten times the right number?"

This is exactly how Democracy fails. When the people lose a say in their government, which we essentially have, the public loses it's ability to make decisions for themselves. We elect rich, elitist snobs to office every election, simply because it is the only choice we are given. Whether it be Rep or Dem matters little anymore, because they are cut from the same cloth. It is for this reason that I tend to like the British political system better than our own. Though not perfect, at least they give their citizens every opportunity to speak their mind and put like minded people in office.


18 posted on 03/17/2006 3:23:27 PM PST by SC33
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To: marron
You have to wonder, what is it they are afraid of?

I suspect, the hangman's noose.

Edmund Burke made a speech in the British Parliament during the American revolution. I'll post the whole passage and highlight the pertinent part of it.

"Permit me, Sir, to add another circumstance in our colonies, which contributes no mean part towards the growth and effect of this untractable spirit. I mean their education. In no country perhaps in the world is the law so general a study. The profession itself is numerous and powerful; and most provinces it takes the lead......But all who read, and most do read, endeavor to obtain some smattering of that science. I have been told by an eminent bookseller, that in that branch of his business, after tracts of popular devotion, were so many books as those on the law exported to the plantations. The colonies have fallen into the way of printing them for their own use. I hear they have sold nearly as many copies of Blackstone' Commentaries as in England. General Gage marks out this disposition very particularly in a letter on your table. (Gage discouraged measures of oppression of the colonies, "towards a country where every man studies law".).

"This study renders men acute, inquisitive, dexterious, prompt in attack, ready in defense, full of resources. In other countries, the people, more simple and of a less mercurial cast, judge of an ill principal in government only by an actual grievance; here they anticipate the evil, and judge of the pressure of the grievance by the badness of the principal. They augur misgovernment from a distance, and snuff the approach of tyranny in every tainted breeze."

I have wondered if this is a much unspoken aim of the professional politicians for the last two decades, to pack the electorate with Burke's non-augerers.

26 posted on 03/17/2006 4:28:33 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: marron

Good points.First,secure the borders.Then immigration reform.Have you read,"Immigration Out Of Control"/John Vinson?


27 posted on 03/17/2006 4:44:55 PM PST by Thombo2
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