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Immune System Cells May Be Cause of Asthma
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | 03.15.06

Posted on 03/17/2006 7:14:02 AM PST by SheLion

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To: corkoman

Don't have a cat, never did and am never around them. As far as the oak, it's the trees not the wooden furniture.

Yes, Pulmicort is very pricey but it's worth every penny.


21 posted on 03/17/2006 8:04:07 AM PST by surrey
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To: corkoman

Right, but my understanding of so called autoimmune disorders is that an initial trigger, such as a common virus or bacteria, can set off such a reponse. The immune response does not end, even though the initial "invader" has been defeated.


22 posted on 03/17/2006 8:07:14 AM PST by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: I'm ALL Right!
I tend to agree with you.......something is causing the huge increase in these disorders.
23 posted on 03/17/2006 8:08:58 AM PST by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: corkoman
Yes, but there are new kinds of chemicals that haven't always been around since the beginning of time. We are being exposed to something more frequently than we were before. I don't think it's one specific kind of chemical. I think it is the combination of them all that is causing problems.
24 posted on 03/17/2006 8:14:46 AM PST by I'm ALL Right!
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To: corkoman
You do not have "adult-onset" asthma but an extrinsic asthma brought on by the cats allergens. I cannot get rid of my daughter's cat so i will suffer for a few more years (the cat always finds its way back to the house...>1 mile and counting).

If you can get rid of the cat your asthma should go away.

Did you mean to post this to me?  I don't have asthma but I do have a cat. :)

25 posted on 03/17/2006 8:20:34 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: surrey
Pulmicort is an inhaler. And you bet I'm relieved. I had reached the point where I was uneasy about travel. The thought of being on a plane and possibly having an episode was terrifying.
I have to remind myself every day not to leave the house with my rescue inhaler ,just in case..

I can imagine.  I was addicted to Dristan Nasal Spray for over 5 years and I would panic if I left the house without one.

So I can imagine what a horrible feeling it would be if you didn't have your inhaler. 

26 posted on 03/17/2006 8:26:52 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion
The irony here is that I've seen studies that indicate children raised around animals, tend to have less incidences of asthma.

Not sure if it's related but it plays into the theory that your immune system needs to be 'exercised' to work properly. Kids raised in sterile environments usually get their butts kicked by a simple cold. The immune system needs exercise so it know when to attack and to hit hard.

Conversely, with 'exercise' it can learn what NOT to attack, what's not a real threat (like pollen and dander) thereby helping minimize allergies (and possibly other autoimmune disorders).
27 posted on 03/17/2006 8:29:05 AM PST by PissAndVinegar
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To: SheLion

Whiners often claim that SHS "triggers" asthma attacks.


28 posted on 03/17/2006 8:38:09 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: I'm ALL Right!
I think the more common use of chemicals in everything including food, lotions, shampoos, make-up, laundry detergent, milk, etc has contributed to the rapid increase in these kinds of conditions, cancer included.

What sort of chemicals exactly? Elaborate plaese.

Your premise is right, however. There is something unnatural about the environment we live in. And yes, I am a mild sufferer of Asthma.

It would be interesting to see how many FReepers here are diagnosed with asthma.

29 posted on 03/17/2006 8:39:14 AM PST by MinorityRepublican (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: metesky

People I know who have asthma don't claim that tobacco smoke "causes" or even triggers asthma. To a person (including my sister and niece) they do claim that smoke makes breathing harder if they're having trouble.


30 posted on 03/17/2006 8:44:18 AM PST by Gone GF
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To: I'm ALL Right!

Hear, hear. I'm with you on that. The more fragrance-free or organic products I'm finding, the better I'm getting. The second I'm around someone or something loaded with fragrance, I'm about down for the count.


31 posted on 03/17/2006 8:50:09 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: PissAndVinegar
Not sure if it's related but it plays into the theory that your immune system needs to be 'exercised' to work properly. Kids raised in sterile environments usually get their butts kicked by a simple cold. The immune system needs exercise so it know when to attack and to hit hard.

Conversely, with 'exercise' it can learn what NOT to attack, what's not a real threat (like pollen and dander) thereby helping minimize allergies (and possibly other autoimmune disorders).

That is exactly right.  Kids today are being too well protected from life and sports and the environment.  They need to grow up with all this stuff in order for their immune systems to grow and be able to fight off infections.  I agree one hundred percent.

32 posted on 03/17/2006 9:06:40 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: metesky
Whiners often claim that SHS "triggers" asthma attacks.

hehe!  I know!  :)

Quite a few of them are in FR too.  I know how they spew that shs triggers their attacks.  One reason I posted this, because there is nothing in this research that even mentions cigarettes or second hand smoke.

33 posted on 03/17/2006 9:08:08 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion; metesky

"I sure don't know if you can outgrow asthma or not."




I outgrew asthma.

I had it from age 5 to age 21. I could barely climb a single flight of stairs when I had a attack,I slept seated in a chair,I'd lose weight and I was very thin.

At 21 I had a bad attack and I couldn't even walk to the bus stop---I would take a cab to the school where I was teaching.It lasted for 2 miserable weeks.

I never had another attack in the next fifty years.It just stopped.

I am convinced that a good cup of strong,black coffee helps asthmatics and smoking certainly did me no harm since I still smoke.

Coffee and cigars were some of the treatments given to Teddy Roosevelt,who had severe asthma, and TR had the best doctors money can buy.


34 posted on 03/17/2006 10:51:47 AM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen-caviar and cigarettes.)
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping!


35 posted on 03/17/2006 12:34:06 PM PST by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTOL=SLAVERY)
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To: metesky

SHS does trigger asthma in some of us and I am not a whiner, I'm just trying to educated you people. The article doesn't mention lots of allergens that trigger asthma but that doesn't mean those allergens aren't a problem to some people.


36 posted on 03/17/2006 6:11:05 PM PST by Ditter
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping!


37 posted on 03/17/2006 9:44:26 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: I'm ALL Right!

Thank you,you hit the nail on the head.you are right.A friend of mine told me if you can't pronounce what's on the labels of foods don't eat it,could be dangerous to my health.To many young people i know have MS.THIS IS NOT GOOD...


38 posted on 03/19/2006 10:47:38 AM PST by primrose (PRIMROSE)
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